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re: Body Cam shows Florida man killed by Deputy with one shot.
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:49 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:49 pm to HubbaBubba
My initial reply was thinking the cops were looking for a suspect and just happened upon a homeowner working on his property. I didn’t think video showed that the cops knew exactly who this guy was or that he may have had more than the ax or a violent past.
I still think that they should have approached differently from the start, but once in progress I can also see once the guy with ax backed behind brush the cop being concerned about more than just the ax and also about the guy being mentally unstable with a past of violent crime and resisting. I am just not sure the video showed this, but maybe there is other evidence this was all accounted for with response (& not found out after the shooting).
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/12/09/bodycam-footage-shows-moment-leading-to-ax-wielding-man-being-shot-by-jacksonville-officer/
I still think that they should have approached differently from the start, but once in progress I can also see once the guy with ax backed behind brush the cop being concerned about more than just the ax and also about the guy being mentally unstable with a past of violent crime and resisting. I am just not sure the video showed this, but maybe there is other evidence this was all accounted for with response (& not found out after the shooting).
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It happened on April 21, when the Sheriff’s Office said police were called to Morse Avenue just before 4 a.m. in response to a call “regarding a mentally ill individual.” Sheriff T.K. Waters, who at the time was JSO’s chief of investigations, said that initially, officers were unable to locate the man. He said officers came back around 11:30 a.m. following another call from neighbors.
That’s when, Waters said, officers made contact with Kevin Mahan, 43, who was in a wooded area.
…According to Waters, Mahan had prior arrests, including possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, a drug arrest, a felony traffic arrest and a robbery arrest. Records show in 2013, Mahan was sentenced to three years in prison after he was convicted of being a felon in possession of a firearm. In 1998, Mahan was convicted on two counts of armed robbery and one count of attempted armed robbery.
Court records also show that back in December 2021, an officer was used a Taser on Mahan while trying to arrest him. The arrest came after a driver told police that Mahan tried to carjack him and verbally threatened to kill him at a Gate gas station on 103rd Street. Mahan pleaded no contest to resisting arrest and was sentenced to 30 days in jail.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/12/09/bodycam-footage-shows-moment-leading-to-ax-wielding-man-being-shot-by-jacksonville-officer/
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 12:27 am
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Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:52 pm to PowerTool
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Or maybe he was an old man who slow to respond
They were 43 I believe.
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free people shouldn't live in fear of having to prove to amped up short-dick cops that we're not a threat.
I mean, after the 2nd call in under 8 hours about you being a threat, you might carry a little more burden of proof
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:55 pm to MoarKilometers
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Dude was a repeat violent criminal, who was terrorizing his neighbors.
Are you saying theres more to the video or the actual incident at hand that we haven't seen?
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:58 pm to HubbaBubba
If some of you dudes got this triggered for felon on felon crime... the world would be a better place.
It's like the cop just randomly chose the victim by playing eeny meeny moe..right? quit breaking the law and being violent felons and maybe shite like this won't happen!
That Solomon dude might need some professional help tonight...
It's like the cop just randomly chose the victim by playing eeny meeny moe..right? quit breaking the law and being violent felons and maybe shite like this won't happen!
That Solomon dude might need some professional help tonight...
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:00 am to NATidefan
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Yeah, I've seen tons of other videos where cops get shot, attacked, etc in a split second by someone that didn't seem to be a threat. There was one posted here less than a month ago where the guy didnt seem to have any weapon and then Boom, cop gets shot in the head.
There was also a story on the OT just yesterday about a cop shooting a ten year old in the head too after he missed the house dog
. Somehow the story/justification is always the same with some folks on here.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:53 am to MoarKilometers
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I think cops shot him for not reading the thread, to see the answer multiple times the calls were from neighbors. At 4 am it was armed dispute, with a mentally ill individual. At 11:30 neighbors called again because he was vandalizing their houses.
It’s amazing how many people here comment before actually looking further into it.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:59 am to HubbaBubba
Thats brutal.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:29 am to NATidefan
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Yeah, I've seen tons of other videos where cops get shot, attacked, etc in a split second by someone that didn't seem to be a threat. There was one posted here less than a month ago where the guy didnt seem to have any weapon and then Boom, cop gets shot in the head.
I think most reasonable people would expect a police officer to perform their duties with professionalism, discipline, and discretion. They should be held accountable for the public trust. I wouldn't expect the same out of a criminal.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:10 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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It's not justifiable for cops to just run up on people and start shooting.
The most dishonest implication in this entire thread.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:27 am to HubbaBubba
Man was standing there in an aggressive manner. Justified.
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 3:27 am
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:28 am to NATidefan
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Yeah, I've seen tons of other videos where cops get shot, attacked, etc in a split second by someone that didn't seem to be a threat. There was one posted here less than a month ago where the guy didnt seem to have any weapon and then Boom, cop gets shot in the head.
I agree that cops should just primitively shoot everyone just in case. Can never be too safe!
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:31 am to danilo
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Man was standing there in an aggressive manner. Justified.
Hell yeah....if someone so much as breathes heavily.....shoot them.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:50 am to imjustafatkid
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Same for the cop though. The cop can't just assume the guy with an axe doesn't know how to throw it.
Then why in the frick does he continue to advance towards the guy?
Posted on 12/12/22 at 4:49 am to pankReb
You can argue whether this was a good shoot or not but let's please stop pretending that this was a normal guy doing yard work and minding his own business. He had been harassing his neighbors, threatening them, destroying their property for at least eight hours. I'm guessing they are feeling relieved that they can now live in peace. I'm referring to actual law-abiding citizens minding their own business who no longer have a violent, mentally ill criminal roaming the neighborhood.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 4:55 am to Adajax
I don’t like the way he called that shite in
Posted on 12/12/22 at 5:16 am to HubbaBubba
If cop told me to put hatchet down I would have done so. Disobeying ramps up the situation considerably.
Not sure I understand why if someone is black and they don't comply with an officer... they are at fault. Seems to be such a double standard.
Not sure I understand why if someone is black and they don't comply with an officer... they are at fault. Seems to be such a double standard.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 5:28 am to HubbaBubba
Deputy killed that man.
Suspect did not have a chance to respond or even put their ax or item they had down.
Suspect did not have a chance to respond or even put their ax or item they had down.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 5:30 am to ReauxlTide222
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You’d walk onto someone’s property while they were using an axe in some of their woods and cap them in the face from 60 feet if they moved their axe from below their waist?
Impressive. You managed to work in two deliberate inaccuracies in that short of space. It's already been pointed out numerous times he wasn't "clearing brush". He was a known, violent felon with repeat calls that day for violent behavior with an axe. Let me repeat that - an axe.
And you already knew that the distance was nowhere near 60 feet. It will be a stretch to be 25 feet (I'm guessing months down the road when the investigation is complete the distance is inside 20).
So one edgy, internet-cool shite poster starts a thread with a purposely misleading and inflammatory title and the usual suspects of edgy shite posters show up to the neck beard chum.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 5:36 am to Tridentds
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Disobeying ramps up the situation considerably.
you know what else ramps up the situation considerably?
shooting them.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 6:06 am to GumboPot
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This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 6:08 am
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