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Need advice on Grilling St Louis style ribs (UPDATE)
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:41 pm
Never done this before but need some great tips/tricks. I am going to put these on an outdoor grill and I am assuming cooking at a low temp for several hours. From what I have researched it looks like I need to put in Tin Foil as well.
Also, any tips on the seasoning/rub.
Also, any tips on the seasoning/rub.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:57 pm to BIGJLAW
You don't need foil. What kind of smoke? Sticks, pellet, egg? I would only wrap if you are doing all wood/stick fire and going longer than 4 hours.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:13 pm to BIGJLAW
Spend some time on YouTube. I bought a new smoker recently (Recteq700 due in large part to TD food board recs) and learned a ton from watching youtube videos about my particular smoker, various types/cuts of meat, and seasonings, etc. Tremendous resource with great info.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:21 pm to BIGJLAW
What grill will you be cooking them on?
You can do the 3-2-1 method
Smoke for 3 hours at 225
Wrap and smoke for 2 more hours
Unwrap sauce and cook for another hour
You can do the 3-2-1 method
Smoke for 3 hours at 225
Wrap and smoke for 2 more hours
Unwrap sauce and cook for another hour
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:42 am to BIGJLAW
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lso, any tips on the seasoning/rub.
use a store bought that says "ribs" or "pork" on the label. If you haven't done any cooking/smoking at all, your first task is to get the technique right.
Watch youtube, go buy a smoking meat book. Enjoy the journey. Anyone who has done this a while will be lying to you if they say they've never fricked up a rack or two.
If its the first time using the smoker, I might suggest a pork butt to get a feel for the nuances of the longer use of the equipment. generally more forgiving but ribs will be fine as well.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:26 am to BIGJLAW
6 hours usually, no wrap, google rib bend test. I usually spot check IT temp anyway, to 200-205
Set grill to 250
Set grill to 250
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:22 am to BIGJLAW
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I am going to put these on an outdoor grill
Define outdoor grill. Will you be able to cook them using indirect heat because that would be ideal. In a nutshell, smoke them at 275 using hickory, pecan, cherry or post oak...all work well, just slightly different flavor profiles.
You can season them with practically any commercial rub found at Academy and they'll be fine. Pork lends itself to a sweeter rub fwiw. Let them smoke uncovered until the outside has a nice mahogany color to them similar to this...
Granted these are babybacks but you get the point. You're probably looking at 3 hours or so at 275 to get to this point assuming you're cooking indirect. When they have that nice color, you can pull them and wrap in foil (no, you don't HAVE to wrap). Add a little apple juice and maybe some honey or brown sugar if you want a sweeter profile.
Wrap tight and put them back on the pit. After an hour, pull them and check for tenderness. The meat should be pulled back from the end of the bones. If you're checking internal temps, I prefer around 198-202. If you want fall-off-the-bone, 205-207 will usually do the trick.
When you hit those marks, remove from foil, sauce them (if you want sauce) and put them back on for 15 minutes until they have a nice tacky glossy sheen like this...
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:30 am to BIGJLAW
I have done them 2 ways and usually fall back to the easiest - that’s even what my family prefers:
Remove membrane from back of the ribs, Dry rub and smoke 1-1.5 hours at 225, wrap in foil w a few pads of butter and bake (oven or on pit) at 300-325 for 2-2.5 hours (depending on thickness)
I find the above method keeps them very tender and juicy. We prefer ribs falling off the bone and not chewy, which I do understand is a point of contention. We never sauce ribs, either. Select your own bbq sauce at the table. Dry rubs w no sugar, too.
If you are going to do the 3-2-1, I recommend a spray bottle of some apple cidar vinegar mixture to spray periodically. They can get dry w this method… even if sprayed and sauced. Not really my preferred method but a lot think that’s what ribs should be
Remove membrane from back of the ribs, Dry rub and smoke 1-1.5 hours at 225, wrap in foil w a few pads of butter and bake (oven or on pit) at 300-325 for 2-2.5 hours (depending on thickness)
I find the above method keeps them very tender and juicy. We prefer ribs falling off the bone and not chewy, which I do understand is a point of contention. We never sauce ribs, either. Select your own bbq sauce at the table. Dry rubs w no sugar, too.
If you are going to do the 3-2-1, I recommend a spray bottle of some apple cidar vinegar mixture to spray periodically. They can get dry w this method… even if sprayed and sauced. Not really my preferred method but a lot think that’s what ribs should be
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 8:32 am
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:52 am to BIGJLAW
I'm a 3-2-1 guy. Trim the flap and skirt, take off the membrane, dust/rub w/ seasoning of your choice or just salt and pepper.
I use BGE, 235F indirect setup. Spritz every 30-60 minutes with 2:1 Apple Juice/Vinegar (I use rice wine vinegar). After three hours, wrap in foil (will get you to fall off the bone stage) or butcher paper (still tender, not usually fall off bone - and at this time I give a light brush with the sauce I use, and do not put a lot of liquid in with them). Leave 'em for 2 hours, same temp. Unwrap, brush with sauce again (I don't slatther, think glaze) then finish at 250ish for about an hour, take off, rest a few min then slice and eat.
I use BGE, 235F indirect setup. Spritz every 30-60 minutes with 2:1 Apple Juice/Vinegar (I use rice wine vinegar). After three hours, wrap in foil (will get you to fall off the bone stage) or butcher paper (still tender, not usually fall off bone - and at this time I give a light brush with the sauce I use, and do not put a lot of liquid in with them). Leave 'em for 2 hours, same temp. Unwrap, brush with sauce again (I don't slatther, think glaze) then finish at 250ish for about an hour, take off, rest a few min then slice and eat.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:29 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
Remove membrane. Set smoker to 275. Rub ribs with pig stand basting oil (or W sauce if you don’t have the other) and season with Meat Church Holy Gospel. Smoke none side down for 2 hours, spritzing with apple juice every 30 after the first hour. Get a large thick piece of aluminum foil and put some brown sugar, pads of butter, and a little bit of apple juice to make a slurry. Wrap and cook bone side down for 2 hours. Unwrap and cook boneside for another hour. Baste with bbq sauce of your choice for last 15 minutes.
Best ribs I have ever eaten.
Best ribs I have ever eaten.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:43 am to BIGJLAW
The best advice that I can give you, when first starting out, is to just keep it simple. Don't overcomplicate it. You and your family want to enjoy your first rack, and get better each cook after. A messed up rack will discourage you.
A couple bullet points:
Find racks with nice, even thickness on the meat
Pull the membrane
Lightly season all around the rack with a balanced rub. Don't over season the rack, especially the first time.
I like 275 for dry heat, and 250 for wet heat.
Wrapping in foil is a preference thing, and it does produce a slightly different rib than unwrapping.
I don't like using a timed schedule, or an internal temperature as guidelines for gauging doneness. I'd rather go off of feel. I prefer using a bone pulling technique. Meat side down, grab the exposed bones, and pull back and forth, until the doneness that you like. If you feel like you can start to pull them apart, they will be in the neighborhood of being done.
Season or sauce after to taste, and it'll help with developing flavors for your next cook.
Hopefully this helps.
A couple bullet points:
Find racks with nice, even thickness on the meat
Pull the membrane
Lightly season all around the rack with a balanced rub. Don't over season the rack, especially the first time.
I like 275 for dry heat, and 250 for wet heat.
Wrapping in foil is a preference thing, and it does produce a slightly different rib than unwrapping.
I don't like using a timed schedule, or an internal temperature as guidelines for gauging doneness. I'd rather go off of feel. I prefer using a bone pulling technique. Meat side down, grab the exposed bones, and pull back and forth, until the doneness that you like. If you feel like you can start to pull them apart, they will be in the neighborhood of being done.
Season or sauce after to taste, and it'll help with developing flavors for your next cook.
Hopefully this helps.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:54 am to Crawfish From Arabi
the only reason I spot-check IT is sometimes they cook faster than expected.
that said, listen to this man when it comes to BBQ.
that said, listen to this man when it comes to BBQ.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:00 am to t00f
Thanks t00f
Speaking of rubs and seasonings......t00f, have you seen my socials? It's coming!!!
Speaking of rubs and seasonings......t00f, have you seen my socials? It's coming!!!
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:05 am to Crawfish From Arabi
yes I did! will grab some soon. let's grab lunch soon too.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:05 am to bossflossjr
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Remove membrane
Way under-appreciated first step!
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:52 am to BIGJLAW
Thanks for all of the tips. Cooked the ribs yesterday for about 6 hrs and man, they were good. I will call the first time a success.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
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