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re: Pogy boat dumps 900,000 fish off Louisiana coast

Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:01 am to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11492 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:01 am to
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They will rape it until it is done and no more money to be gained.


Then blame oil companies and climate change.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16647 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:04 am to
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Then blame oil companies and climate change


Let's keep this thread about this thread
Posted by voros79
Member since Nov 2015
368 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:09 am to
The incident elicited shrugs from the state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. Jason Adriance, one of the agency’s fisheries managers, said only about 2% of the Gulf of Mexico’s menhaden stock is fished each year, so Omega Protein’s mishap doesn’t matter much.

“A couple million extra is insignificant,” Adriance said.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11492 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:18 am to
*Based on scientific study paid for by Omega Protein.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22031 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:18 am to
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The incident elicited shrugs from the state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. Jason Adriance, one of the agency’s fisheries managers, said only about 2% of the Gulf of Mexico’s menhaden stock is fished each year, so Omega Protein’s mishap doesn’t matter much.

“A couple million extra is insignificant,” Adriance said.
Isn't he the same guy guy with LDWF in charge of all the recent studies that are supposed to result in speck size and creel limits being changed? Wonder how many trout end up dead in those pogy nets...especially when those boats are dropping nets 1/4 offshore in summer when the trout are on the coast to spawn. I know there's been some big stinks about the number of dead bull reds left behind by the pogy boats
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1839 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:54 am to
Yeah we can’t count a red snapper, I’m sure we have an accurate pogie count.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10264 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:24 am to
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Someone needs to track who is getting money from these people and lets start shaming them.



ummm....look up 2 posts from your question.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91168 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:21 pm to
I don’t know much about how these boats work, but I regularly harvest fish on my catfish farm and it’s crucial that they live when I seine them up.

Is it not possible to haul these fish in without the nets killing them? I do it all the time. If it appears there is too many fish in the net and overcrowding which risk mortalities, we just let some out before they get too packed in. Granted catfish are a tough species, but there are commercial striped bass and baitfish farms that do this too.

Seems there could be better fishing practices to keep from killing so many fish if they catch too many
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5156 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:17 pm to
They aren’t keeping these fish alive. Throw them on ice as soon as they catch them
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22031 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:37 pm to
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Is it not possible to haul these fish in without the nets killing them?
No because these are massive nets pulling in tens or hundreds of thousands of fish in a single drop. By the time they pull the nets out the water, most of the fish have suffocated because there’s not enough oxygen for that many fish in such a confined space
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7395 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 9:04 pm to
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Is it not possible to haul these fish in without the nets killing them?


Can't look at a pogey cross ways without killing it.
Posted by voros79
Member since Nov 2015
368 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 9:14 pm to
I can’t imagine.
How bad those boats must smell and how they clean them after hauling in 900k pogies.


Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 9:28 pm to
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How bad those boats must smell


I've been to omega protein a few times. You can smell it wayyyyyyyyy before you can see it.
Posted by GITiger66
Member since Dec 2019
233 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:00 pm to
Over the last two years CCA and other groups have tried to pass legislation to regulate menhaden industry, but the governor, along with senators Bob Hensgens and Eddie Lambert have killed the bills. These guys are extremely well funded and our government officials have completely let us down. It’s embarrassing.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:19 pm to
You need to spend 100k or so and go after these political Buddies of theirs, out PIs on them etc
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22753 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 12:57 pm to
I dont know why CCA doesn’t fly drones over pogie operations. It’d be real easy to do and would give an accurate portrayal of the bycatch.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14373 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 1:27 pm to
Seems no one will do anything. Same thing with them being up on the beaches.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91168 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 2:06 pm to
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No because these are massive nets pulling in tens or hundreds of thousands of fish in a single drop. By the time they pull the nets out the water, most of the fish have suffocated because there’s not enough oxygen for that many fish in such a confined space


I hold between 500,000-1,000,000 head of 6-8 inch long catfish fingerlings in a 80 foot holding sock for 12-18 hours in 4 feet of water
without killing them.

But Pogies may die easily. If one of my ponds has shad in it, they will die in the sock but catfish won’t. Which I asked my question, because I don’t know much about pogies.
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:17 am to
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I dont know why CCA doesn’t fly drones over pogie operations. It’d be real easy to do and would give an accurate portrayal of the bycatch.


That's actually not a bad idea.

What's interesting about this is the general public does not know and does not understand the scale of the problem.

It seems someone at nola.com cares about this, getting them more content that can show the real scale of the devastation would get the general public involved.

Unfortunately our state leaders have no altruism in their bones, they will not step in out of some moral duty to preserve our state's natural beauty. They'll only do something when they think they'll lose their jobs.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
16001 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:57 am to
Catfish can survive when most fish can't.
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