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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:27 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:27 pm to 777Tiger
I don't want to hear this shite. When I took my first job out of college, I had to go back to working in the fast food industry on top of my job just to live. Yes some of these kids are unrealistic, but people should be able to buy housing on their second promotion.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:27 pm to 777Tiger
quote:It's a free market with two sides, not a unilateral decision on how a skillset should be valued. That sounds like communism.
problem is they want to start out at mid career earnings with zero experience and limited qualifications as opposed to entering the work force at a level commensurate with those "skills" and improving their position based on skill and merit
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:27 pm to baldona
quote:Sure, but even entry level pay should increase to compensate for today’s costs.
It’s an entry level position for someone 18-25, lol. You shouldn’t be trying to ‘make a living’ or raise a family. That’s not the people the OP is trying to hire anyway.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:28 pm to 777Tiger
You sound like an older person probably in their 50s or 60s. Things are not the same as they were back in your day. You can't get established in a particular field when the starting pay is so low that you can't even afford a place to live and a car.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:28 pm to lsupride87
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Or they want a wage that allows for hone ownership
Buy a trailer, save on rent, sell and get back most of your money when you advance and income grows.
people didn't have an issue with this when housing "was affordable." They lived in tenements, trailers, 900 sq foot homes. Familes have shrunken, homes have grown exponentially.
If we want 1950's style home ownership, expand the base of affordable housing and zoning including tiny homes and mobile homes. Maybe its time people get over the stigma.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:28 pm to Greenie10
Gen Z will likely be a semi-insane generation, but this salary thing is going to continue to be a problem when that $15 is quickly turning into about $3 an hour worth of spending power. I think large corporations are very aware of this which is why they are all in on wide open southern borders and increased federal benefits for illegals. These kids are about to get replaced.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:29 pm to lsupride87
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Go back in time to your first job. Now cut that salary by 40%. Would you have simply “shut up and worked”?
my starting wages at the company I'm at were at poverty level, especially since I was initially assigned to NYC, I had the patience and foresight, and sense of delayed gratification to realize that this job, in just a few short years would turn into a lucrative, high paying gig with excellent retirement and benefits, 38 years later it has exceeded all of my wildest projections
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:29 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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You say all this, but you still haven't found anyone to take that job. So who's the retard now?
We're filling a position that was previously held by a 22 yr old guy who had no degree or experience. He still lived at home. He showed up late all the time, called in "sick" often, yet complained that he never had enough time saved up for vacation (b/c when he called in sick, his PTO was used until he had none left and then the company allows you to go negative up to 40hrs).
He did buy that $1500 folding Samsung phone, bought a Subaru WRX that he then modded to no end, and spent $10+ for lunch everyday at fast food places.
We finally let him go when he no called no showed twice. He called in to inquire about his last paycheck, but I'm pretty sure he owed the company money based on his borrowing of PTO time.
If he'd have been a good employee, he'd have been promoted within the year.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:29 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:Are you too confused to understand the relative wage today is weaker to the cost of goods than it was ever before? Even weaker than the Great Depression? Do you not understand that concept?
Most people did, I hate to break it to you.
Seriously asking if that’s beyond your comprehension
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:30 pm to 777Tiger
quote:And on average, still 40% stronger than starting wages today…..
my starting wages at the company I'm at were at poverty level, especially since I was initially assigned to NYC
So now do you understand the issue?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:30 pm to 777Tiger
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I had the patience and foresight, and sense of delayed gratification to realize that this job
Was it warehouse work?
Oh, no? So your anecdote is irrelevant
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:30 pm to Korkstand
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It's a free market with two sides,
People will just Automate.
Zoomers can't think that far ahead.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:31 pm to AUCom96
I own my own handyman business because I was tired of accepting ridiculous wages. There's also this thing where people believe that all Mexicans and illegal immigrants are good workers. This is 100% false and actually quite the opposite. It took me over a year to find a reliable Mexican sub that does good work.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:31 pm to Scruffy
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At the same time, with what shite costs now, pay has not increased in an equivocal manner. Are business owners out of touch with what pay should be?
Wut? Business owners can’t just pay whatever the hell they want…
Again, entry level positions will ALWAYS be a struggle financially
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:31 pm to Greenie10
Sounds like what you can expect to hire at $15/hour.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Automating is far more expensive than the peanuts we pay for manual labor.
People will just Automate.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:32 pm to Jsand43
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You can't get established in a particular field when the starting pay is so low that you can't even afford a place to live and a car.
see my response to these responses, that's exactly the situation I was in, you have to prioritize, be resourceful, innovative, budget, and delay gratification, everyone has to play the cards they are dealt
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:32 pm to Jsand43
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I own my own handyman business because I was tired of accepting ridiculous wages.
The gig economy will replace traditional work for a lot of young people. I think its a good thing as long as they can be self sufficient, which I have doubts.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:32 pm to Greenie10
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We're filling a position that was previously held by a 22 yr old guy who had no degree or experience. He still lived at home. He showed up late all the time, called in "sick" often, yet complained that he never had enough time saved up for vacation
This is the level of worker you attract with that compensation package. What do you not understand about that?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:32 pm to baldona
There's a big difference between a struggle and an impossibility
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