re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

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Benefits offered on Day 1 are 3 weeks PTO a year(it accrues from Day 1), Health insurance(medical/dental/vision), 401k with 6% company match, $300 fitness reimbursement annually, stock purchase option at 15% discount and at lowest price of the year, annual bonuses, big employee purchase discounts on cars(we have fleet purchasing prices with Chevy, Toyota, and Ford), HP computers, cell phone plans with At&T, etc etc

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My company offers all of this, but the ESPP period is every 6 months, RSU’s for everyone in the company, and 225 a quarter wellness reimbursement, and starting pay of 19/hr in STL and 22/hr in Atlanta and Scottsdale. Difference is, this is a call center position, work from home, company provides all equipment.

Your company is going to need to pay more.

Skilled labor such as carpentry, electrical, plumbing, HVAC work are not part of the gig economy. Driving a car with a passenger in the back is not skilled work

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And they can't afford to contribute to a 401k or buy the stock options.

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another flawed viewpoint from these young dumbasses, at the beginning of your career you can't afford not to do those things, you start that discipline at the onset and get to your 50s and will be shocked at how much wealth you've accumulated, but no, got to have ...fill in the blanks ...now! young idiots don't no what "necessessities" really are

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It costs more than $30k to provide slop for food and a single room for an inmate.

Maybe they are more disciplined than you realize for working the market rather than settle for poverty.

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And on average, still 40% stronger than starting wages today…..

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no, adjusted for inflation it was exactly what my company started employees in my position at twenty years earlier

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Skilled labor such as carpentry, electrical, plumbing, HVAC work are not part of the gig economy

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I bet they will be in a few years. People will get away from traditional 40 hour employment and hire as needed help.

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see my response to these responses, that's exactly the situation I was in,

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You're a fricking pilot.

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Skilled labor such as carpentry, electrical, plumbing, HVAC work are not part of the gig economy.

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Of course it is. Do you know what gig means?

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We're filling a position that was previously held by a 22 yr old guy who had no degree or experience. He still lived at home. He showed up late all the time, called in "sick" often, yet complained that he never had enough time saved up for vacation (b/c when he called in sick, his PTO was used until he had none left and then the company allows you to go negative up to 40hrs).

He did buy that $1500 folding Samsung phone, bought a Subaru WRX that he then modded to no end, and spent $10+ for lunch everyday at fast food places.

We finally let him go when he no called no showed twice. He called in to inquire about his last paycheck, but I'm pretty sure he owed the company money based on his borrowing of PTO time.

If he'd have been a good employee, he'd have been promoted within the year.

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Hey dipshit, all the good employees are working elsewhere with decent starting pay.

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Of course, but $15/hour isn't "struggling," it's I can't afford gas to go to work or a shitty 1 bedroom apartment in the hood.

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Exactly.

There is a difference.