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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262217 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Automating is far more expensive



they're already doing it. Fast food and retail in particular.

The capital outlay would be worth not having to hire, train and employ low skilled workers.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to
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The willingness to work does not make you a good worker, especially in trades that require a large amount of skill. Just because you can hold a paintbrush doesn't make you a painter.



I'm a licensed general contractor and have been around that type of work all of my life, there's not a task on a construction site that I can't do as well as any tech out there, it's just not the highest and best use of my time, I know what the job entails, how it should be done correctly, and how much it should cost, so I'm pretty good familiar
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48957 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to
I took a low wage job right out of college because I was single and didn't have many bills yet. I knew that I wouldn't stay very long but it was enough to survive on for me at the time. It looks like that wage would be roughly 40k now accounting for inflation.

This was in BR but I'd imagine that's probably about what it would take these days for a young person to survive on their own in a non expensive market? $15/hr would be pretty tough unless you had roommates or lived with your parents
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:40 pm to
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It’s just a fact man. The average entry level worker had a far greater living wage than today. Admitting that is simply admitting the truth. Trying to hide from it is so strange to try and be some badass is so strange



He has Roger level cognitive dissonance in this thread.
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:41 pm to
I didn't mean to belittle your job mingo, I've actually been agreeing with everything you've said on this thread. What I'm trying to say is that to me a gig is just something anyone can do like drive an uber. Not everyone can do skilled construction work. But I understand what you are saying.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91023 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:41 pm to
Companies should figure up the value of those benefits and offer 2 choices.

15/hr with benefits or say 30/hr no benefits
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:42 pm to
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It’s just a fact man. The average entry level worker had a far greater living wage than today. Admitting that is simply admitting the truth. Trying to hide from it is so strange to try and be some badass is so strange

Generations before had it far better than zoomers when it came to income



started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo. living in New York City, ain't no hiding from that, it was tough, but within five years I was making in the low 200s, and had gotten the hell out of NYC
Posted by TexasTiger1984
Houston
Member since Sep 2009
1375 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:42 pm to
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no, adjusted for inflation it was exactly what my company started employees in my position at twenty years earlier


What was your starting salary when you began working 38 years ago? Honestly curious
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34877 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:42 pm to
It's amusing how the people who can't afford to work for minimum wage, or even $15 an hour, are perfectly willing to sit home and accept the money the government legally steals from those who do.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:43 pm to
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What I'm trying to say is that to me a gig is just something anyone can do like drive an uber.


That's not what gig means. Gig jobs don't have to be unskilled.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48957 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:43 pm to
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and had gotten the hell out of NYC

I lived there for about 13 months when I was 22. It was fun for the first 5 months but I couldn't get out of there fast enough towards the end. Not my scene
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96175 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:43 pm to
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started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo. living in New York City,
and minimum wage in nyc 38 years later is $2,400 a month
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to
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You're a fricking pilot.




so I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up? what's that got to do with anything?
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to
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started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo


That's like the exact same absolute number as $15/hour in the year of our Lord 2022.

Did you have a stroke or something? Jesus
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71583 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to
In theory I could do advanced accounting work for Fiverr and it would be considered gig economy.
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to
Semantics, I think we are on the same side of this argument though
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72233 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:45 pm to
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It's amusing how the people who can't afford to work for minimum wage, or even $15 an hour, are perfectly willing to sit home and accept the money the government legally steals from those who do.
Well, it’s annoying, but I understand their stance.

Why work for peanuts that get taxed to hell and back when you can not work and be lazy for the same peanuts without the taxation?

We incentivize this shite.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4547 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:45 pm to
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38 years later


Ah, this explains a lot
Posted by TexasTiger1984
Houston
Member since Sep 2009
1375 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:45 pm to
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started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo. living in New York City, ain't no hiding from that, it was tough, but within five years I was making in the low 200s, and had gotten the hell out of NYC


So you made $18,000 a year.

According to the Us Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI inflation calculator you would need to be making $51,000 in 2022 to have the same buying power.
Posted by Whataburger
95.60 Longitude 30.20 Latitude
Member since Jan 2018
700 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:47 pm to
What area in Houston, I may be interested.
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