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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to lsupride87
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Automating is far more expensive
they're already doing it. Fast food and retail in particular.
The capital outlay would be worth not having to hire, train and employ low skilled workers.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to Jsand43
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The willingness to work does not make you a good worker, especially in trades that require a large amount of skill. Just because you can hold a paintbrush doesn't make you a painter.
I'm a licensed general contractor and have been around that type of work all of my life, there's not a task on a construction site that I can't do as well as any tech out there, it's just not the highest and best use of my time, I know what the job entails, how it should be done correctly, and how much it should cost, so I'm pretty good familiar
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:39 pm to Korkstand
I took a low wage job right out of college because I was single and didn't have many bills yet. I knew that I wouldn't stay very long but it was enough to survive on for me at the time. It looks like that wage would be roughly 40k now accounting for inflation.
This was in BR but I'd imagine that's probably about what it would take these days for a young person to survive on their own in a non expensive market? $15/hr would be pretty tough unless you had roommates or lived with your parents
This was in BR but I'd imagine that's probably about what it would take these days for a young person to survive on their own in a non expensive market? $15/hr would be pretty tough unless you had roommates or lived with your parents
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:40 pm to lsupride87
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It’s just a fact man. The average entry level worker had a far greater living wage than today. Admitting that is simply admitting the truth. Trying to hide from it is so strange to try and be some badass is so strange
He has Roger level cognitive dissonance in this thread.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:41 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I didn't mean to belittle your job mingo, I've actually been agreeing with everything you've said on this thread. What I'm trying to say is that to me a gig is just something anyone can do like drive an uber. Not everyone can do skilled construction work. But I understand what you are saying.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:41 pm to Greenie10
Companies should figure up the value of those benefits and offer 2 choices.
15/hr with benefits or say 30/hr no benefits
15/hr with benefits or say 30/hr no benefits
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:42 pm to lsupride87
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It’s just a fact man. The average entry level worker had a far greater living wage than today. Admitting that is simply admitting the truth. Trying to hide from it is so strange to try and be some badass is so strange
Generations before had it far better than zoomers when it came to income
started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo. living in New York City, ain't no hiding from that, it was tough, but within five years I was making in the low 200s, and had gotten the hell out of NYC
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:42 pm to 777Tiger
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no, adjusted for inflation it was exactly what my company started employees in my position at twenty years earlier
What was your starting salary when you began working 38 years ago? Honestly curious
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:42 pm to Scruffy
It's amusing how the people who can't afford to work for minimum wage, or even $15 an hour, are perfectly willing to sit home and accept the money the government legally steals from those who do.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:43 pm to Jsand43
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What I'm trying to say is that to me a gig is just something anyone can do like drive an uber.
That's not what gig means. Gig jobs don't have to be unskilled.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:43 pm to 777Tiger
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and had gotten the hell out of NYC
I lived there for about 13 months when I was 22. It was fun for the first 5 months but I couldn't get out of there fast enough towards the end. Not my scene
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:43 pm to 777Tiger
quote:and minimum wage in nyc 38 years later is $2,400 a month
started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo. living in New York City,
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You're a fricking pilot.
so I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up? what's that got to do with anything?
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to 777Tiger
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started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo
That's like the exact same absolute number as $15/hour in the year of our Lord 2022.
Did you have a stroke or something? Jesus
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to Jsand43
In theory I could do advanced accounting work for Fiverr and it would be considered gig economy.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:44 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Semantics, I think we are on the same side of this argument though
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:45 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:Well, it’s annoying, but I understand their stance.
It's amusing how the people who can't afford to work for minimum wage, or even $15 an hour, are perfectly willing to sit home and accept the money the government legally steals from those who do.
Why work for peanuts that get taxed to hell and back when you can not work and be lazy for the same peanuts without the taxation?
We incentivize this shite.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:45 pm to 777Tiger
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38 years later
Ah, this explains a lot
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:45 pm to 777Tiger
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started with my company in 1984 for $1500/mo. living in New York City, ain't no hiding from that, it was tough, but within five years I was making in the low 200s, and had gotten the hell out of NYC
So you made $18,000 a year.
According to the Us Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI inflation calculator you would need to be making $51,000 in 2022 to have the same buying power.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:47 pm to Greenie10
What area in Houston, I may be interested.
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