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re: UAB fires AD Brian Mackin & will shutdown football program
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:52 pm to NotRight37
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:52 pm to NotRight37
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Might as well make them all minor leagues and let the pros fund them.
Considering that athletics have frick-all to do with academics, this isn't as silly as it sounds.
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:35 am to HempHead
Though it would never happen, a way to benefit the smaller schools and players would be to have out of state schools fund them. Like LSU funding UAB. That way the in state schools can't try to ruin the smaller programs. I guarantee you LSU wouldn't mind funding them if it would affect Bama, instead of funding ULM or ULL and Bama would do the same to affect LSU.
As for this situation look for them to have Saban offer a scholly or 2 to some UAB players to act like they feel sorry for it happening.
As for this situation look for them to have Saban offer a scholly or 2 to some UAB players to act like they feel sorry for it happening.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:52 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:35 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Meh! I agree that way too many states have way too many team in FBS. I mean let's be honest. ULL, ULM, and LaTech don't belong in FBS. They would be better off competing against Nichols, Southeastern, and Northwestern Louisiana.
Judging by your post content and avatar, it really feels like I am getting Paris Hilton's input
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:06 am to Rabern57
Does anyone have that meme from Happy Gilmore?
The one where the guy goes "that is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard."
The one where the guy goes "that is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard."
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:22 am to cjared036
It's from Billy Madison.
Some of y'all need to get a damn grip. This is about UAB Football correct? A "program" that's been given money hand over fist for its entire existence from both the University of Alabama and the city of Birmingham and still has never made a dime and has absolutely atrocious facilities and attendance.
30,000 for the Marshall game lol. Would like to see an actual image of that SRO crowd.
Some of y'all need to get a damn grip. This is about UAB Football correct? A "program" that's been given money hand over fist for its entire existence from both the University of Alabama and the city of Birmingham and still has never made a dime and has absolutely atrocious facilities and attendance.
30,000 for the Marshall game lol. Would like to see an actual image of that SRO crowd.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:39 am to ohmdawg
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So who's next on the list Jacksonville State, Troy, South Alabama?
Bama has no ties to any of those schools.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:00 am to ten Hoor Hall
holy crap duh! Don't post while working out at the gym...
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:13 am to cjared036
It really is ludicrous how many of you ranters have no clue about finances.
The fact is, UAB has had over 20 years to break even with their football program, and they haven't come close. Not once. Furthermore, in that time, the city of Birmingham has failed to show any measure of support whatsoever. Fan support averages about 12-14K a game in most years. It's pathetic.
And please, just drop the crap about U of A's main campus wanting to shut UAB down. Frankly, we could care less. I could count the number of recruits we've lost to UAB on... wait, I can't recall ever losing a recruit to UAB. Fan support? I don't think we are losing fans to UAB either. This argument just doesn't fly. It's all about the money.
The bottom line is that spending any more money on UAB football is like pissing money down a rathole. The Univ of Alabama system board of trustees are apparently seeing this while many of you are not, and they have a fiduciary responsibility to spend taxpayer dollars effectively and efficiently. Funding UAB football in no way fits that goal.
The fact is, UAB has had over 20 years to break even with their football program, and they haven't come close. Not once. Furthermore, in that time, the city of Birmingham has failed to show any measure of support whatsoever. Fan support averages about 12-14K a game in most years. It's pathetic.
And please, just drop the crap about U of A's main campus wanting to shut UAB down. Frankly, we could care less. I could count the number of recruits we've lost to UAB on... wait, I can't recall ever losing a recruit to UAB. Fan support? I don't think we are losing fans to UAB either. This argument just doesn't fly. It's all about the money.
The bottom line is that spending any more money on UAB football is like pissing money down a rathole. The Univ of Alabama system board of trustees are apparently seeing this while many of you are not, and they have a fiduciary responsibility to spend taxpayer dollars effectively and efficiently. Funding UAB football in no way fits that goal.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:28 am to iglass
Its funny how everyone is parroting this Paul Bryant Jr narrative with zero proof. There is absolutely NO proof that this is a decision based on a personal vendetta. There is a mountain of proof that it is a decision based on finances.
The city of Birmingham doesnt help. It is a city run by incompetant people. The city doesnt support the program and there is no reason that UA should have to support a garbage program that its "fans" dont even support.
Definitely look for this to become a political issue and even a racial issue even though it has very little to zero to do with either.
The city of Birmingham doesnt help. It is a city run by incompetant people. The city doesnt support the program and there is no reason that UA should have to support a garbage program that its "fans" dont even support.
Definitely look for this to become a political issue and even a racial issue even though it has very little to zero to do with either.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:34 am to iglass
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The bottom line is that spending any more money on UAB football is like pissing money down a rathole. The Univ of Alabama system board of trustees are apparently seeing this while many of you are not, and they have a fiduciary responsibility to spend taxpayer dollars effectively and efficiently. Funding UAB football in no way fits that goal.
And I'm sure that most activities at UAT fit that goal? Sure. No boondoggles there.
Most athletics programs lose money. I also note that UAB has a higher endowment than UAT. How can that be?
Merely upholding fiduciary duty? That must be why they stepped in and refused to allow the contract for Fisher; that must be why they rejected the stadium proposal despite routinely approving borrowing for fraternity mansions and other activities not exactly core to the University's mission. That must be why they are trying to accomplish this in the dead of night with no hearing.
UAT's board also owes a fiduciary duty to the students, employees, alummi and community. By axing football without so much as a hearing, they have woefully failed to uphold their fiduciary duty.
Maybe it needs to go - maybe UAB and Birmingham really don't want their football. But for a Board, whose members largely have only tenuous ties to UAB, to ramrod this, looks fishy.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:54 am to Overbrook
See. Good lord.
You type UAT you automatically lose any credibility but alas, the entire University of Alabama system exists because of UA. Solely. That's the truth and you know it.
The fact that "they" want to pull the plug on a venture that never should've been started to begin with, I just don't get the uproar? Where was Bryant Jr's and the BOT's despotic hand when the pos program was put on the tit to begin with?
You type UAT you automatically lose any credibility but alas, the entire University of Alabama system exists because of UA. Solely. That's the truth and you know it.
The fact that "they" want to pull the plug on a venture that never should've been started to begin with, I just don't get the uproar? Where was Bryant Jr's and the BOT's despotic hand when the pos program was put on the tit to begin with?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:56 am to ten Hoor Hall
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30,000 for the Marshall game lol. Would like to see an actual image of that SRO crowd.
I was there. It didn't look like 30k.
LINK
And like I said in that thread, we were given 4 tickets. We woke up Saturday morning, and my daughter, a first grader at a Vestavia Elementary school, asks if we can go to the UAB game, and says she has tickets. She marches to her backpack and comes back with a family 4 pack ticket, and a note from Bill Clark. Apparently they sent these out to every elementary school in the surrounding area. It was in an envelope from the UAB school of education. So I highly doubt they have 30k paying fans at a game. And this was against Marshall, who was 10-0 at the time and ranked. On a Saturday prior to the Iron Bowl when Auburn was playing Samford and Bama was playing Western Carolina.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:06 am to iglass
quote:It's ludicrous to block them from getting a stadium and hiring coaches like Jimbo Fisher and expect them to get their program running. Bama doesn't want UAB to be successful in football or they wouldn't get in their way every time they try to take a step forward.
It really is ludicrous how many of you ranters have no clue about finances.
Their fans know Bama is holding them back and after constantly causes the to keep losing they quit going to games.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:24 am to ten Hoor Hall
Explain Jimbo Fisher
Explain disallowing a stadium that required no taxpayer dollars.
Explain the lack of a public hearing
Explain disallowing a stadium that required no taxpayer dollars.
Explain the lack of a public hearing
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:26 am to TU Rob
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I was there. It didn't look like 30k.
LF's capacity is 71k. 30k would be just less than half of the capacity. I assume that picture is looking at the home side, Marshall didn't bring a ton of fans, and the end zones still have tarps over the seats. There's no way there were 30k fans there for the football game.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:33 am to euquol
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Will the student athletes be able to transfer to another school without waiting the year?
I believe they would, yes.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:41 am to pvilleguru
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There's no way there were 30k fans there for the football game.
Easily 30k there, and marshall did bring a good bit.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:49 am to blzr
So the stadium is almost half full going by that picture? Considering that no one is sitting in the end zones, I don't believe it.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:56 am to bamafan1001
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The city of Birmingham doesnt help. It is a city run by incompetant people.
LINK
City council pres seems a little pissed....
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:13 am to Overbrook
I can't explain it man.
I reckon if the big bad rec bot would just dissolve itself and get out of the way that UAB FOOTBALL would have Jimbo Fisher and Jameis Winston and would probably be in the top 4 this season.
Get a grip dude. UAB football.
I reckon if the big bad rec bot would just dissolve itself and get out of the way that UAB FOOTBALL
would have Jimbo Fisher and Jameis Winston and would probably be in the top 4 this season. Get a grip dude. UAB football.
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