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purdue bringing hazell back for fourth year
Posted on 11/5/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 12:13 pm
Somehwat surprising- hazell has won a mere two big ten games in 3 years.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 12:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I guess they see where they rank on the offseason job opening totem pole and think it's best to give it another year.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 12:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Mike Riley making miracles happen.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 12:44 pm to Jwho77
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I guess they see where they rank on the offseason job opening totem pole and think it's best to give it another year.
This. Probably a smart move on their part
Posted on 11/5/15 at 12:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
that is surprising
Posted on 11/5/15 at 1:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Dri Archer made Hazell.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 1:34 pm to Jwho77
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I guess they see where they rank on the offseason job opening totem pole and think it's best to give it another year.
This doesn't capture the whole picture for sure. While Purdue has a lot of things working against it, it has a lot of things working for it too. Mainly, our ability to pay and guarantee a guys contract. Purdue gets just as much BTN money as Ohio State and Michigan do and we've recently commited to spend every cent of instead of having to ship the surplus off to the actual university like we used to.
Sure, some coaches won't want to coach at Purdue. The guys we would be interested in (Campbell, Babers, Fleck) are guys that we could easily land, and I think Babers would be a great fit in the Joe Tiller type mold for a lot of reasons.
That said, I don't think our Head Coach is ALL of the reason our program has been god awful the past 3 years. A lot of the behind the scenes factors have to be changed and our Offensive Coordinator who has never been good at any of his stops NFL or otherwise needs to go before the HC does.
Flat out the reason that we are keeping him around is as a placeholder for when our BTN TV revenues kick up to $45 million before the 2017 season and we can start tossing around $5-8million a year for new coaches.
While the SEC is projected to keep pace with those revenue figures, competitors in the Big12 (unless something changes), ACC and PAC12 will have TV deals worth 1/3 or less than ours and that puts our Athletic Department as a whole at an advantage over other similar P5 schools not in conference. Big changes are coming to the coaching and salary structures for Big Ten schools in the next few years.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 1:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
He's only in the third year of a six year deal.
I highly doubt Purdue has the money to just rip through HCs so quickly.
I highly doubt Purdue has the money to just rip through HCs so quickly.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 1:37 pm to Dr RC
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He's only in the third year of a six year deal.
I highly doubt Purdue has the money to just rip through HCs so quickly.
You don't know, and that's ok.
We'd gladly take Sumlin off of your hands and bring him back home if you'd like!
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 2:25 pm to Jwho77
The rank is their rank regardless of how many teams are looking for coaches. Virginia Maryland and UCf are in that class. I don't think that's too many.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 2:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The hire was always baffling to me. Kent State had one very lucky, very flukish season where they owned turnover margin and won a lot of close games because of that and having Dri Archer, who may be the fastest human being I have ever seen in person. Turnover margin tends to deviate from season to season, and there aren't many guys like Archer out there.
I'm never a fan of hiring a Group of 5 coach based on one season. I like to see them have multiple seasons of sustained success before making the move. That's the main reason I want Fuente if the UGA job comes open.
I'm never a fan of hiring a Group of 5 coach based on one season. I like to see them have multiple seasons of sustained success before making the move. That's the main reason I want Fuente if the UGA job comes open.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 2:46 pm to VADawg
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The hire was always baffling to me. Kent State had one very lucky, very flukish season where they owned turnover margin and won a lot of close games because of that and having Dri Archer, who may be the fastest human being I have ever seen in person. Turnover margin tends to deviate from season to season, and there aren't many guys like Archer out there.
I'm never a fan of hiring a Group of 5 coach based on one season. I like to see them have multiple seasons of sustained success before making the move. That's the main reason I want Fuente if the UGA job comes open.
My biggest issue was with Hazell's OC hire. That has put him behind the 8-ball from day 1.
I agree to an extent about coaches that have 1 good year then get scooped up. That said, the guy was everything we wanted as far as pedigree (long time OSU assistant and Tressel disciple). I think we messed up mostly because he thought he could walk into Purdue and immediately grind out games and win like OSU did from 2000-2010. The worst part about it is that we've nabbed some decent QBs over the past 3 years but our OC has made them look like barely functional retards with no development.
So you're a UGA fan? I grew up in Lafayette as a Purdue fan but ended up in GA and went to UGA for undergrad.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
i turned purdue into an absolute, no question, fricking rape dynasty on ncaa 06. my services are available
Posted on 11/5/15 at 5:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What about Brock Spack eventually?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 5:26 pm to TheWalrus
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What about Brock Spack eventually?
Not against it. He's done VERY well at Illinois St. and is generally top 3-4 on any list when we go to look for a new coach.
Problem is, he hates our current AD...and our AD is there for 2 more years before his mandatory retirement. If Hazell somehow gets Purdue to a bowl next year and doesn't get canned then Spack comes more into play because the next AD would likely be hiring the next football coach.
Part of that is likely why Hazell is being kept too. I think they want a succession plan/AD in waiting type thing and want to announce who the next guy is AFTER a deal is in place. That should be coming down I would think in the next 9-12 months most likely before next football season ends. Then, whoever the guy in waiting is hires the new coach so there's no turmoil as far as the new coach not being the new ADs guy.
All of that said, Spack is a decent candidate. When Tiller was recruiting well, Spack churned out a few top 20 defenses and some really good NFL talent. When Tiller wasn't recruiting well our D was pretty putrid under him and lots of fans/alums still remember that too. I think he's a good CEO type and a Tiller type recruiter. We just need a guy who can beat out Iowa, Wisky, MSU, IU, Kentucky, Pitt, Mizzou, Ill and NW for talent and we will be decent again. The last guy who did for Purdue was pretty successful. Our last 2 coaches have been recruiting worse than an on the job retired Tiller and we've sunk pretty far because of it.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:42 pm to Jwho77
quote:Good move
I guess they see where they rank on the offseason job opening totem pole and think it's best to give it another year.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:43 pm to BMC398
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We just need a guy who can beat out Iowa, Wisky, MSU, IU, Kentucky, Pitt, Mizzou, Ill and NW for talent and we will be decent again
398 Purdue
You should not have the word JUST in that sentence.
Jesus ####, you JUST have to beat out Mich State?
You JUST have to beat out Wisconsin?
Those guys have been to the Rose bowl LATELY.
Why is Pitt even in your list?
Pitt is sitting on the western PA gold mine. They can be very good and never visit frigging Indiana. You can have both the 4 star Indiana guys if ND doesn't want them. LOL!
Look on rivals at the western PA 4 star guys and then look at Indiana.
ARE THERE any in Indiana this coming year? 2? 5? Which ones are going to ND? FYI, you have to beat out Our Lady, not "just" Kentucky.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 11/6/15 at 8:59 am to VerlanderBEAST
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I guess they see where they rank on the offseason job opening totem pole and think it's best to give it another year.
Good move
Not hardly. We weren't going to be after the same guys that the big boys were looking for. We would have most likely targeted Babers, Campbell and Fleck and could have easily landed one of them.
We pay, we guarantee our contracts and have decent facilities that will be upgraded soon.
I certainly don't think that Illinois is a better job than ours and really the only success Minnesota has had has been short term and if they move away from hiring their DC, they might move away from that success pretty quickly. Maryland is the only job in conference that is open that I think is better but that's all really based on untapped Under Armour potential.....which is still untapped and they are waiting on having a horse to back before they go all in. The UA guy is on record as saying that they are willing to be the big time booster but that they aren't the ones willing to dig the AD out of massive debt but that once the AD is free and clear of that they will be more willing to hop in and fund future improvements.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:00 am to CelticDog
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purdue bringing hazell back for fourth year
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We just need a guy who can beat out Iowa, Wisky, MSU, IU, Kentucky, Pitt, Mizzou, Ill and NW for talent and we will be decent again
398 Purdue
You should not have the word JUST in that sentence.
Jesus ####, you JUST have to beat out Mich State?
You JUST have to beat out Wisconsin?
Those guys have been to the Rose bowl LATELY.
Why is Pitt even in your list?
Pitt is sitting on the western PA gold mine. They can be very good and never visit frigging Indiana. You can have both the 4 star Indiana guys if ND doesn't want them. LOL!
Look on rivals at the western PA 4 star guys and then look at Indiana.
ARE THERE any in Indiana this coming year? 2? 5? Which ones are going to ND? FYI, you have to beat out Our Lady, not "just" Kentucky.
Logic, comprehension, understanding or Big Ten football don't seem to be your strong suits. Stay in your lane?
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:47 am to WestCoastAg
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i turned purdue into an absolute, no question, fricking rape dynasty on ncaa 06. my services are available
In NCAA 12 I brought back the Tiller magic and went full blown air raid. Drew Brees' records didn't stand a chance
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