re: People Melting over Orgeron. Why not wait and see?

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No one is saying hire Orgeron full time today There are quite a few people saying this.

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Ok, then those people are idiots, the same as those who wouldn't want him if he made the playoff.

The entire point is you're wasting your time getting worked up over it either way with the November gauntlet left to go.

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You do realize if we won out, we'd be the SEC champion more than likely going to the playoff? Can we at least wait until the regular season is complete before the total meltdowns ensue?

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no because people on here are not capable of doing that. They are too emotional.

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e has brought so many positives back to this team its ridiculous. If you can't see that then you don't want to see it.

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Its only positive compared to where Miles had this team. Did you see the 1st half against the scrub team this weekend?

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My point is that you cannot guage a coaches worth over one partial season. He inherited a team stocked full of talent on both sides of the ball with some damn strong position coaches. What happens if recruiting falls off or position coaches seek greener pastures? Is this the man that will rise to the occasion and become a great head coach? Im not saying Ed cant become that guy but what i am saying is his resume doesn't reflect it. This is a multimillion dollar decision and it shouldn't be based on a couple of stints as interim head coach at places already stocked with championship talent.

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Do you not think that Orgeron would keep LSU talented, or that no other coach is dependent on his assistants? O is poised to still finish with a top 5 class even after the head coach was fired, that's not by dumb luck, and look at the golden boy Jimbo. He's currently getting his arse handed to him because he fought to retain a shitty DC.

This "interim wins don't matter" argument baffles me when it comes to Orgeron. You know the guy can recruit, so this is about the talent level he should have if he's hired. He's got an extensive network of contacts and is respected by his peers so you know he will be able to get assistants. He has handled the PR part of the job pretty well throughout his career, and has already dealt with his best player being hurt. He's developed top 10 draft picks at DL, and coached under some elites.

Pretty much all you're waiting to see is if he can translate the intangibles to wins on the field by developing good game plans, motivating his talent to play to their ability, and making in game adjustments. You have the toughest teams and the best coach in the country to test him, with the adversity of a few short weeks thrown in. I honestly don't know what else you guys want from him if he goes and wins the games.

And if you think that even if O does well the rest of the season he deserves a shot at what is arguably a top 5 or top 10 job in the country, then you are blind. He isn't proven by any means. He was terrible in his one permanent head coaching gig.

He shouldn't be considered for the job at all.

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People Melting over Orgeron. Why not wait and see?

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Beacuse they are already lining up on the nega-posi CEO sides. Gotta stake that position early, baw.

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If you can't see the difference between Miles putting an iron fist on game day planning and thinking he always knew best even when it was failing miserably, and Orgeron having the OPPORTUNITY to prove he won't do the same and can have success against the toughest teams in the west then you're blind.

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Again, if Coach was this great game day coach why wasnt he getting defensive coordinator offers? Why wasnt he successful AT ALL at ole miss?

Also just because YOU couldnt see the huge differences in our offense under Jimbo, crowton,and Cam then thats on you. The football ignorant people that act like we have ran the same exact offense during miles tenure just proves they dont know what they're seeing on game day.

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It's pretty simple. If you can hire a coach with a better HC resume than O you do it. None of the wait it out nonsense. It doesn't matter what he can do in 7 games. There's way more to being a HC than that. If there's ONLY guys left who are on O's level than so be it, but if that's the case LSU screwed this fire/hire up big time.

ETA: In all seriousness, let me ask all the wait it out or coach o or bust people a question...

If he wins out or only loses to Bama by say less than 10, does texas, ND, Oregon, USC, etc start calling him up willing to pay him 3+ mil a year? If you don't believe that O would immediately be in there top 5 then why should he be for LSU?

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I'll answer. I don't know if they start calling and I don't care one bit if they do or don't.

Tell me what more there is about Coach O that he hasn't been able to prove or wont be able to prove this season as far as being a head coach.

Recruiting -check
PR -check
Lack of meddling -check
Motivation - checkcheck
Gameday prep - check
Identifying self weaknesses - check

So if he does great from here on out, I'm just wondering what the specific concern is.

I'm not for hiring him right now. I'm for giving him a legit interview for the rest of the season. If he can lead us through this gauntlet in front of us and come out on top, he has my 100% support.

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team looks good so far

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You are guaging this based off horrible Mizzou and Southern Miss teams?

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Les would have struggled to put away these teams, though.