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re: Michigan's "Hot Board" of Coaching candidates (including Miles)

Posted on 12/2/14 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 4:13 pm to
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There isnt a school in the country that would have held on to him.


RR has been highly successful every where he has coached before Michigan and after Michigan. He was changing the Michigan style of play and recruiting a different type of player than Michigan had gone after before. That takes time. Michigan pulled the trigger after three years. Stupid thing to do given what RR was trying to do. The Michigan success in 2011 showed that RR was on the right track with his recruiting.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 4:18 pm to
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Dan Mullen, head coach Mississippi State Bulldogs

Why it makes sense: It's not easy to win in Starkville, and this season Mullen has the Bulldogs primed to make the CFB Playoff series this winter and compete for the first national championship in school history. He's shown a history of developing quarterbacks under Urban Meyer at both Utah and Florida and is likely to be one of the hottest names in coaching circles this off-season.

Why it doesn't make sense: Mullen's recruiting style, including a recent incident where they attempted to "lower" a player's scholarship offer from a basic one to a "greyshirt" are the types of things Michigan looks to avoid. It's not the first time it's been done by his staff, either. Until this season, Mullen's success was very limited, and he has a very, very senior-laden team this year. It may be a situation where his stock will never be higher.


Laughing at this when in the same article they have Les who did this very thing to his team's current starting center, not to mention the early enrolling OL that got bumped and then went on to Auburn.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 4:19 pm to
I dont think you understand how bad his Michigan teams were. His 3 years were the worst 3 years for defense in the history of the school. They were also trending in the wrong direction. He was gott his arse kicked my State in the only bowl he could make.

While the next year bodes well for his case, the main reason they got better was a rapid improvement on the defensive side of the ball, and an almost unheard of luck on the field. Think they averaged +15 in TOs.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12275 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 5:41 pm to
Rivals also has a hot board. Miles is not even on it. But guess who is: Sean Payton.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 5:58 pm to
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Cam Cameron Age 53

Cameron spent the first ten years of his career at the University of Michigan, where he learned from long-time Wolverine coach Bo Schembechler. After two years as a graduate assistant, he became Michigan's youngest assistant and was responsible for tutoring quarterbacks and receivers (WRs 1986-1989, WRs/QBs 1990-1993). He coached many future NFL players, including Jim Harbaugh, Elvis Grbac, Todd Collins, Amani Toomer, Derrick Alexander and Heisman Trophy winner Desmond Howard.[3] Cameron served as an assistant at Michigan alongside future head coaches Lloyd Carr, Gary Moeller, Les Miles, and Mike DeBord. His fellow graduate assistant was Mike Trgovac, who is currently the defensive line coach of the Green Bay Packers, after serving six years as the defensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers.


Miles probably says no but probably taps Cameron as the man of the moment. I could see Miles politicking for Cam at Michigan.

This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:12 pm to
Payton is on it because he wore a UM hat at a UM event and ate a hot dog
Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:11 pm to
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2011 says hello
new England patriots disagree
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:14 pm to
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I don't think he leaves TCU. He's got a great gig there.


at $3MM .. no bad but
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Miles probably says no but probably taps Cameron as the man of the moment. I could see Miles politicking for Cam at Michigan.


not so "out there" of a concept
Posted by cheo25
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
984 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:35 pm to
Except that he was 18-37 in 5 years at Indiana. That's roughly 3-4 wins per year. He didn't elevate Indiana as a head coach. And he was 1-15 as an NFL head coach. Kinda screams "not head coaching material."
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79622 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:45 pm to
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Except that he was 18-37 in 5 years at Indiana. That's roughly 3-4 wins per year. He didn't elevate Indiana as a head coach. And he was 1-15 as an NFL head coach. Kinda screams "not head coaching material."


1. It's gonna be difficult for any HC to win consistently at Indiana. It's a basketball school. It's where they put their emphasis.

2. Saban left Cameron an absolute shitshow in Miami when he departed.

I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong about Cameron...he may not be HC material. But his track record does have extenuating circumstances, and I think he will eventually get another look at some point.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:30 pm to
What a fricking joke list.

Miles is the only realistic candidate.
Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
5259 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:31 pm to
I believe if Mich could get Miles, they would. They can't afford to take any more chances. They need a proven HC. He's in a tough league. And there are too many big schools competing for a HC to screw around.

Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3532 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:52 pm to
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Give me one reason besides it being his alma mater that would make Les want to leave LSU for Michigan?


Our stupid fan base that wants him fired after every game win or lose.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:58 pm to
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Give me one reason besides it being his alma mater that would make Les want to leave LSU for Michigan?


If he reads tRant, #hegone
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:46 pm to
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get away from the SECW get away from Saban


If you haven't noticed, Les gets off playing in the best conference in the NCAA.

Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
5942 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:42 am to
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RR has been highly successful every where he has coached before Michigan and after Michigan. He was changing the Michigan style of play and recruiting a different type of player than Michigan had gone after before. That takes time. Michigan pulled the trigger after three years. Stupid thing to do given what RR was trying to do. The Michigan success in 2011 showed that RR was on the right track with his recruiting.



I agree with this. Michigan was stupid for getting rid of RR. His record each got better, while Hoke'e got worse.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:48 am to
if the RR firing was due to the higher ups telling him to get a legit DC to fix that shite and he refused? i can understand

by basically every account, this did not occur and the "michigan man" good ole boy system literally did everything it could to have him fail

people think that LSU fans complaining about miles doing stupid shite, absolutely failing to recruit/develop a HS QB, or lying to put blame on players is bad, but we've never been guilty of anything close to that
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10322 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:59 am to
CLM is the best choice for Michigan of the candidates listed in some of these articles. He is a proven winner, recruiter, program administrator, etc. The only true negatives are his age (61), personality (goofy) and buyout (significant).

The pie in the sky candidate lists for the schools with current openings are ridiculous - look at what Florida (McElwain) and Nebraska (Tressel, Frost or something worse) will likely end up with as a HC. You gotta think that Michigan would properly evaluate the thing and come to the conclusion that Miles truly is the ideal fit (negatives listed above aside).

I don't necessarily want CLM to leave (really don't), but if he isn't offered the job this time around it is a huge mistake on Michigan's part.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:18 am to
I absolutely don't want us to lose Miles..it will certainly set us back.
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