re: LSU can do a lot better than Orgeron

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He is a great recruiter and a great defense of line coach. he has not proven to be even a good head coach, though. The change will undoubtedly spark LSU and they will play better for the rest of the season, but I don't see any scenario where O proves he is the right guy for LSU long term in eight or nine games. I would be uncomfortable with him as the permanent head coach.

It's going to be weird and there will be hard feelings if LSU wins out or goes seven and one, if Herman or Fisher want to come here. Hopefully the LSU admins would do the right thing and tell O thanks but no thanks.

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As much as I agree with much of what you stated its a little to early for this conversation.

STFU

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As much as I agree with much of what you stated its a little to early for this conversation.

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This is the very time to have it. As emotional as everyone is now, just wait until they go 7-1 or 6-2 with an improved offense. Hell, any shred of rational thought will be out the window as soon as they complete a few forward passes.

I just think a little more calculation is required to run a football program, especially in the best division of the best conference.

If LSU looks great, O makes the list of potential candidates, but he's still not top 5.

If Orgeron wins big and goes to the spread offense, then I want him, but ONLY if he does that.

I saw that he said he is a pro style guy, f-that. I am tired of seeing it and I'm tired of the struggles we have with it. We are down here in Louisiana neighboring Texas, there ain't shite but spread QBs down here. There is WAY more than enough talent down here to run what Baylor, Oklahoma, TCU, Clemson, Miss St, Houston, etc run.

Get Herman in here with Aranda, and after one year of gathering depth and experience on both sides of the ball again, LSU would go undefeated in 2018. Y'all see TCU's Boykin and Miss St's Dak, rookies in the NFL looking good, and they were considered TEs and WR like coming out of high school by most schools. Greg Ward will likely get drafted and perform well too.

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I think I'll watch the season unfold

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This.

Coach "O" can coach. He has experience. I am not going to write him off. I think given a top notch offensive coordinator we would be fine.

We shall see how the team looks after a few games. If Herman is available I think you have to take him.
I would love to see coach "O" turn this team around.

LSU will continue its downward trend in all sports, including football, that has coincided with alleva's arrival as AD. You won't do any "better" with any coach. In fact, oeaux is maybe only coach that won't take alleva' shite.

Fact.

Geez, it's barely been 24 hours. Let's watch some games before jumping the gun.

Well he doesn't have to develop qbs he had to hire someone who can. He said the right things. Let coaches coach. He will continually to do what he's good at and that what every coach does. No one coach has his hands on everything. He oversees the good and bad, evaluated based on results just like any boss. Some coaches focus on qbs or defense specifically whatever position they were most experienced at. Etc. etc.

I don't know Ed Orgeron personally, but I have had friends who do. The consensus with them concerning Ed is the fact he has always bled purple and gold. When it comes to a head coach, as was the case with Miles, what is more important, your ego or wins and championships? It seems to me that Miles ego prevented him from change and as is the case he sacrificed wins. I'm no psychologist, but it just seems Miles attitude towards his position as HC was, my way or highway. There's been more talented players leave the LSU team in the past year than a lot of programs have on their entire roster, why? Johnson said he left because he wanted to play in a more wide-open offense. That's not verbatim, but the jest of his reason for departing. Seems that he knew before the first game LSU's offense would once again be stifled with banality. Being that Coach O is so emotionally connected to LSU, I truly believe he will make any and all decisions based on LSU being victorious. I can honestly see LSU running the table the rest of the season, winning the SEC championship and going to the playoffs (then again gentlemen, I am a fiction writer and my imagination is somewhat over-active) Still, LSU has the talent to do just that. If players start playing up to their capabilities and the coaches are smart and perform their duties as well as their opposition. So, Coach O being the man for the job or LSU being able to do better is really moot at this point. There is one thing Orgeron has going for him that no other coach does and that is his love for LSU football and the state of Louisiana. Maybe that's exactly what it will take, what we need, what the state needs, somebody whose affection for LSU football goes much deeper than wins or losses or championships. Somebody who came from amongst us, who understands what our state means to us, what we mean to each other, what our culture and our sports means to us. And there's not one single coach out there who knows these things more than Ed Orgeron. If there's a coach out there who can spark these tigers and turn this thing around, it's Coach O. As concerning who the HC will be for next year, well, we will find out later. Whomever it is, I hope he can do for LSU and Louisiana what Nick would of done had he stayed a tiger. (Which is basically what he has done at 'bama) And it can happen, and I believe it will happen. And if Coach O is the man to take LSU to that level, then God bless him. But I have no doubt's the next HC will do exactly that!!!