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re: It all depends on the source of the leak...

Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:31 am to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:31 am to
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It doesn't if LSU backs away and makes another run at Jimbo. For some schools, a leak like that is an instant deal-killer.


I've never said the leak was a good idea by UT.
Posted by bwallcubfan
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:31 am to
Well not an LSU booster
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:32 am to
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To tell the world that you have agreed to terms on a deal but are still interested in hearing other offers? Are you really dumb enough to think that is normal? That doesn't help Herman in anyway and makes him and his agent look terrible in the public's perception.


It happens all the time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:32 am to
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A handshake agreement is nothing more than a negotiating tool to further drive a bidding ware to agents.

yeah if you want your client potentially blacklisted from major jobs

just like major coaches don't want to deal with UT b/c of their boosters, big jobs won't want to deal with that kind of shite form their coach. you have to be a guy like nick saban to pull that kind of shite off. herman doesn't have that kind of reputation/respect
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:33 am to
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He is staying at Houston who will match any LSU offer and he will wait another year or 2 an so end up somewhere else.


He isn't staying at Houston. The fact that he was out of the playoff discussion after the one loss makes just underlines how irrelevant that program is, even with him.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:33 am to
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They have no leverage with only one team left at the table.


No they won't.


It was likely his agent that leaked it to some loud mouth booster.

If doesn't bode well for LSU
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:34 am to
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Well not an LSU booster


You don't know what you are talking about queer.
Posted by 0
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:34 am to
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It happens all the time.




Please give me an example.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:35 am to
This is almost exactly what happened to LSU last year, but nobody else was negotiating with Jimbo.

You would think that schools would stay away from the blueprint that LSU laid. Even more ironic, is that it once again involves LSU, but we still have no clarity on whether or not anything has been set into motion with Herman and LSU.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:36 am to
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just like major coaches don't want to deal with UT b/c of their boosters, big jobs won't want to deal with that kind of shite form their coach. you have to be a guy like nick saban to pull that kind of shite off. herman doesn't have that kind of reputation/respect


He's got two of the best programs in the country bickering over him. He's also a 2nd year HC who's about to make upwards of $5 mil a year.

How exactly do you people think the UT boosters found out about his supposed "agreement" with LSU if Herman's agent didn't tell them? There was no tweet from any LSU source until after the story from ESPN.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:36 am to
Yeah. I've never heard of that tactic. Almost every coach wants to finish out their current season before discussing a new job. I can guarantee you his agent asked Herman if he would allow a leak if he were the source, which seems highly unlikely.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:37 am to
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Please give me an example.


Les Miles and Arkansas just a couple of years ago. Well, that wasn't too difficult.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:37 am to
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He's got two of the best programs in the country bickering over him.

i don't think so

i don't think the UT AD is that hot on him (may be mutual)

that's why you see this desperation move from UT boosters
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:38 am to
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Les Miles and Arkansas just a couple of years ago.

Les Miles didn't agree to shite. his agent just leaked information that he was interested
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:39 am to
I think it's absolutely possible UT was negotiating with him as well.

Also, as a parallel, let's suppose the ULL coach were Herman and we were in the same position. You're telling me that LSU wouldn't have solid inside info if Herman looked like he were going to choose Texas?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:41 am to
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i don't think the UT AD is that hot on him (may be mutual)

that's why you see this desperation move from UT boosters


Does this change anything I've said? Everyone seems to believe the UT boosters really run that program. If true, then UT is definitely fighting for Herman. Also, it just reaffirms my stance that the officials found out about the LSU agreement (Most likely from the agent) and told the boosters, who then leaked it because they were pissed.
Posted by 0
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:42 am to
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Les Miles and Arkansas just a couple of years ago. Well, that wasn't too difficult.




Not even close to similar. Miles was already the coach at LSU being courted for more money. He didn't have a deal in place with Arkansas then release something to the press saying he was waiting on LSU. Holy shite you are a moron.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:43 am to
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Does this change anything I've said?

yes

if UT isn't really going after Herman and Herman's agent goes full on nuclear, he may be left with no BCS job and a scarlet letter that may prevent him from getting those jobs in the future (esp a top program). that's a HUGE risk for a little bit of leverage that would be useless

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Everyone seems to believe the UT boosters really run that program.

no

they think they do

it's chaos
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:45 am to
To make in a bigger cluster there are different sometimes competing groups of boosters each doing their own thing. For everything it can and should have going for it, ut is a nightmare job
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:46 am to
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Not even close to similar. Miles was already the coach at LSU being courted for more money. He didn't have a deal in place with Arkansas then release something to the press saying he was waiting on LSU. Holy shite you are a moron.


Wow you're dense. If you guys want to believe Herman's agent is above this type of shite go ahead.

I'll keep living in the real world.
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