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re: For those bashing Briles
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:30 am to PairofDucks
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:30 am to PairofDucks
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Briles was fired for covering up gang rape
And consequently rewarded 20 million in a wrongful termination lawsuit. No criminal charges have been pressed against Briles.
It's not as cut and dry as your making it out to be.
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:44 am to Azkiger
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No criminal charges have been pressed against Briles.
This shouldn't be the standard when protecting LSU from reputational risk.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:47 am to PairofDucks
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Briles was fired for covering up gang rape. Baggage does not begin to describe him.
This.
We are starting to sound Penn State-ish if defending a guy who harbored gang rapists and possibly worse, talking to the victims and trying to get them to keep quiet.
Is it as bad as decades of enabling a pedophile? Nope. But it is still a shite sandwich. JoePa is a 6' Party sub. Briles is a little 1/4 sandwich. Still shite!
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:49 am to dos crystal
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If LSU fans haven't figured out by now that the media will criticize us no matter what we do, then I don't know what to tell them or people like you who think it matters. Think back just a couple weeks and even to thanksgiving night when mark may ripped us bc texas leaked info about Herman and how we were trash bc we weren't gonna give O a chance, blah blah. The same ones begging for him to get a chance are now laughing at us at every opportunity bc we hired the Cajun who sucked at ole miss. Funny how the narrative changes isn't it? Yea forgive me, but frick the media and frick other fan bases. We have a right to expect a great football program too. We need to bring in the best coaches out there and I don't give a rats arse what the media or any alabama fan thinks about it. You don't care about our program so your opinion means shite
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dos crystal
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All day long. If Briles was so involved in Gang Rape cover up. HE WOULD BE IN JAIL. Common sense.
It's ok for bama to rehab coaches with checkered past but not lsu? Bama took heat for saban's lying arse and unethical behavior but winning has glossed that over. The fact you have bama fans scouring lsu boards and putting their two cents on why not to hire briles should tell you everything. He is a guy who could help change the balance.
His recruiting, contacts in texas, to go with his offensive mind, will elevate lsu to be a stronger more dominant program. HE WILL NOT BE THE HEAD COACH. We have a head coach to deal with compliance issues.
I'm not worried about PR, Trump was the biggest PR nightmare in political history. He won. The media is going to make a big deal out of nothing anyway.
For the record, A lot of this he covered up rape stuff is ignorance. Everything I've read on the issue is that he was negligent for turning it over to compliance rather than dealing with it himself. doest that make him negligent? yes. Does that make him as someone who covered up rape? hardly. He turned it over to the people he thought it should be turned over to and trusted them. I don't believe he's a saint, however, I don't believe he's this criminal people, who have no clue what happened, are stating either.
This was a civil matter, not a criminal matter. Therefore, it was about money and about getting ken star who gave Clinton hell for getting a blow job in the oval office. Briles was collateral damage. It's why he still got his 20 million.
I couldnt agree more with this, i know one of the coaches on this staff and he said the same thing.. 110% agree.. its the idiots that only believe the medias version that says "Briles Raped someone" couldnt be further from the truth... Hire the man..
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:49 am to GCTiger11
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Who the frick cares what recruits' parents think too, right?
If we are being honest with ourselves, the recruits don't give a shite about what went on at Baylor, and most of the recruits' parents don't either.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:50 am to UpToPar
I agree
If we were talking about volleyball or softball recruits, it'd be different though
If we were talking about volleyball or softball recruits, it'd be different though
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:53 am to Mo Jeaux
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This shouldn't be the standard when protecting LSU from reputational risk.
Thankfully that's not the only reason mentioned.
I mentioned twenty million and one reasons why Briles was likely scapegoated and Baylor over reacted. It's not surprising this day in age, Yale just canceled their men's soccer season because the male soccer players were rating female soccer players on their attractiveness on a 10 scale. A Harvard head of college and another professor stepped down due to student pressure because of their stance on Halloween Costumes. Similar student pressure got the President of Missouri University to step down because of imaginary racism.
There's clearly a hypersensitive atmosphere on college campuses today. I'd be more willing to throw Briles under the bus had Baylor not settled out of court 20 million for a wrongful termination. Covering up rape and gang rape is grounds for firing. Why'd they cave and settle for 20 million?
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 11:55 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:53 am to TigerFan55555
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medias version that says "Briles Raped someone"
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:59 am to LSU alum wannabe
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We are starting to sound Penn State-ish if defending a guy who harbored gang rapists and possibly worse, talking to the victims and trying to get them to keep quiet.
If this occurred he'd be facing charges and Baylor wouldn't have paid him 20 million for wrongful termination.
Since he isn't facing charges and Baylor did pay him that large sum of money, its clear that you're just making shite up.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:17 pm to Azkiger
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Yale just canceled their men's soccer season because the male soccer players were rating female soccer players on their attractiveness on a 10 scale. A Harvard head of college and another professor stepped down due to student pressure because of their stance on Halloween Costumes. Similar student pressure got the President of Missouri University to step down because of imaginary racism.
Do you really think there is some sort of equivalence between this overly sensitive pampered university bullshite and the systematic cover up of domestic violence, sexual assault, and rape allegations by a university/athletic department?
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Covering up rape and gang rape is grounds for firing. Why'd they cave and settle for 20 million?
Baylor didn't pay Briles off because they had no grounds to fire him. Baylor paid him off because they wanted to protect their brand and not open themselves up to discovery and other law suits.
If Baylor fights Brile's law suit then both parties spend the next year in court talking about every sexual assualt/rape/domestic violence allegation at Baylor over the past 10 years and who knew about it about it and what action was taken.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:23 pm to drdoom
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The AD at Baylor who was also terminated amid allegations of covering up inappropriate activities just signed on as AD of Liberty College.
WTF does that matter!!!!
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:29 pm to LSUGrad00
LSUGrad00, exactly. Baylor's insurance carrier made the decision to settle based on advice from the school's attys. The last thing Baylor's administration wanted for the case to continue as depositions would have painted all the parties involved in a horrible light. Baylor did not even ask for a written report from its in house investigation to avoid having anything in writing. Baylor was just as guilty as Briles with regards to the cover up. The settlement addresses nothing about Briles' guilt, it was just a legal decision to continue to cover up all the shite that happened. Briles is no victim by any means.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:33 pm to Keltic Tiger
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LSUGrad00, exactly. Baylor's insurance carrier made the decision to settle based on advice from the school's attys. The last thing Baylor's administration wanted for the case to continue as depositions would have painted all the parties involved in a horrible light. Baylor did not even ask for a written report from its in house investigation to avoid having anything in writing. Baylor was just as guilty as Briles with regards to the cover up. The settlement addresses nothing about Briles' guilt, it was just a legal decision to continue to cover up all the shite that happened. Briles is no victim by any means.
Yep. You and LSUGrad00 are right on point.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:57 pm to Mo Jeaux
Briles would make a perfect compliance officer for BAMA
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:59 pm to LSUGrad00
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Do you really think there is some sort of equivalence between this overly sensitive pampered university bull shite and the systematic cover up of domestic violence, sexual assault, and rape allegations by a university/athletic department?
No, just suggesting that the same over reactive attitudes that lead to people being forced to resign over petty issues would be infinitely worse over a series of sexual assaults - so bad that there very well could be collateral damage affecting people that shouldn't be included.
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If Baylor fights Brile's law suit then both parties spend the next year in court talking about every sexual assualt/rape/domestic violence allegation at Baylor over the past 10 years and who knew about it about it and what action was taken.
Those details are going to come out anyways as several women have lawsuits against the university.
Why pay a "rape defender" 20 million dollars to save your brand when those details will be laid to bare regardless? That seems like a double hit, the public gets to hear what went down at Baylor and they get to see Baylor pay Briles 20 million dollars for his immoral behavior.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:05 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Baylor's insurance carrier made the decision to settle based on advice from the school's attys.
Why? Why does their insurance carrier care so much about Baylor's reputation to shell out ~20 million dollars, even though it doesn't have to (assuming the termination was appropriate)?
They're already opening their wallets in preparation for the lawsuits several women have brought against the University already. You'd think they'd be trying to pinch off needless 20 million dollar expenses. Speaking of which, the details of the sexual assaults and the cover up will be aired during these lawsuits anyways.
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Baylor was just as guilty as Briles with regards to the cover up. The settlement addresses nothing about Briles' guilt, it was just a legal decision to continue to cover up all the shite that happened. Briles is no victim by any means.
We're talking very serious criminal charges here... Have any been pressed, are the feds dragging their feet, is there much of a case? What's up? This scandal is well over a year old.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:43 pm to thefloydian
And why are u here ?? Get off Lsu's nuts.. We want good offense.. So are u worried u gonna lose kiffen ? Otherwise why n the faaaak are u on an Lsu thread. Man the bama obsession withLsu is real. I only see Gump fans on here
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:11 pm to drdoom
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That's right, a small christian college in lynchburg, Va.
Uh-huh--A small "college" with an enrollment of 80,494 in 2015. LSU had 31,527 in 2015. Actually, it's Liberty University. (I am NOT a graduate, BTW--nor did I attend there--just know a lot of people who went and work there).
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