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re: Does it bother anyone that we will likely not have both O and Aranda anymore?

Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:44 pm to
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I'd still love to see Orgeron as HC, Aranda as DC, Kiffin or another top OC, and Myles Brennan at QB and just see what happens.
I wanted the 3 you named a few weeks ago as well, but Aranda is just too fricking good. i thought we'd have a few years but theres no way, not after games like Saturday. that might be the best defense Ive ever seen at LSU.

12 years ago, we did nothing wrong yet still got fricked out of saban. 2 days ago, our first year DC stared down the best team in the country and beat the shite out of them like no one ever has. this was only the second time in 8 years saban has been held to 10 or less.

so how about we not relive our nightmare a second time and make sure Aranda never leaves. i know Orgeron has the inside track but just ask yourself who the best coach on the staff is. now ask yourself if thats the one we're promoting.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 11:48 pm
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
4982 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:49 pm to
Aranda could be what jimbo fisher is now... The one who got away because we were too afraid to pull the trigger.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19744 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:04 am to
Another thing about Aranda is with the amount of film study he does and all of the offensive minds he meets with in the offseason, you just know he would be able to find a great OC.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:09 am to
I know it's not a popular opinion in this thread, but O is replaceable. Not easily, but there are dline coaches out there as good as him, and juluke or Craig can take over RC. If jimbo takes over, I have no fears as far as recruiting.

I'm the other hand, we will not find a a DC as good as aranda.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:27 am to
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70% chance they both will be here IMO.


O as d line coach and head of recruiting with aranda as DC and AHC. Im fine with that.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:34 am to
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Why would anyone believe Aranda stays regardless of who the head coach is?


I mean he COULD leave, but where would he go that gets him an HC gig any faster? If he leaves lsu he then has to start over again after one year.

I doubt he would just pack up and move his family, if he is left alone to his side of the ball at LSU. I wouldn't see offensive coaches like Jimbo and Herman getting in his shite as long as he keeps doing what he is doing now.

Seems unlikely he leaves at the end of the year. End of next year i would guess, assuming he has similar success as this year.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:37 am to
I think he stays if Herman or jimbo wants him to. May need to raise his salary a bit.

But staying a coupe of years and winning with an offensive minded coach will get him a much bigger HC job than going to a smaller schoo as a HC now.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:39 am to
The other thing to think about is...he knew very damn well that les could be fired this year, but he still came.

That may be a very good sign that he committed to LSU and not les.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:41 am to
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May need to raise his salary a bit.


Pay that man his fricking money. We won't be spending as much on an OC if we have Herman or Jimbo really running the offense. You could use some of those savings on Aranda.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:44 am to
Yep. I would have no issue with making him the highest paid coordinator in the country. ~$2m should keep him for a couple of years.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:20 am to
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The other thing to think about is...he knew very damn well that les could be fired this year, but he still came.

That may be a very good sign that he committed to LSU and not les.




Although it was a good bet that Aranda could do great things with a roster as talented as LSU, it was shocking as hell that LSU was able to hire him away with such an uncertain situation at HC last year.

That was a top notch hire under normal circumstances, let alone with as much turmoil as we saw at the end of the season.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10899 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:38 am to
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it was shocking as hell that LSU was able to hire him away with such an uncertain situation at HC last year.
It wasn't shocking at all. Not only is he making significantly more than he was previously, his contract specifically exempts him from being attached to Miles. In other words, he knew he had job security regardless of whether or not Miles got fired.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:44 am to
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It wasn't shocking at all. Not only is he making significantly more than he was previously, his contract specifically exempts him from being attached to Miles. In other words, he knew he had job security regardless of whether or not Miles got fired.



I understand what you are saying but he was already viewed as one of the best defensive coordinators in college football. He did have options. He was going to get a sizable raise when he changed schools and he didn't have to jump into the middle of a predictably unstable year.

I guess you could speculate that he believed in himself enough to achieve even in the presence of chaos, but even that seems like more of a gamble than he had to bother taking.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35261 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:52 am to
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I guess you could speculate that he believed in himself enough to achieve even in the presence of chaos
Could you imagine if we didn't have Aranda right now? Among all of this chaos, Aranda is out there staying cool as a cucumber demolishing offenses one after the other.
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:24 am to
Get real
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:00 am to
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I'd still love to see Orgeron as HC, Aranda as DC, Kiffin or another top OC, and Myles Brennan at QB and just see what happens


What happens is Arranda and Kiffin both get HC gigs in a minimum of 2 years.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:25 am to
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I'd still love to see Orgeron as HC, Aranda as DC, Kiffin or another top OC, and Myles Brennan at QB and just see what happens


What happens is Arranda and Kiffin both get HC gigs in a minimum of 2 years.



Posted by MotorbikeMike
Chackbay
Member since Feb 2009
184 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:56 am to
I think alot depends on the next 3 games. If O doesn't win at least 2 of them, he will know that he doesn't have a shot at the job and shouldn't hold it against LSU for not hiring him. However, if he wins out and doesn't get the job, I can see him saying that he isn't staying whether he has another gig lined up or not.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:27 am to
I've been at the point for a while that I don't think Orgeron should get the job unless around eight potential coaches (including Aranda) refuse it.

I hope that's not misunderstood as being a personal affront. Being the head football coach at a school that should contend for championships isn't about seniority, or heritage, or likability - it is about what you've shown you can do, win at the highest possible level.

If Orgeron has himself in a mental place that not being promoted to head coach is a slap in the face then he needs to go. The program is bigger than any single coach and he is smart enough to know his history as head coach doesn't make a good argument.

If he wants the opportunity at LSU, or another major school, he will have to do what other people do. Prove himself at a midmajor or a less prestigious Power 5 job first.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:30 am to
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I'd still love to see Orgeron as HC, Aranda as DC, Kiffin or another top OC,



wtf is wrong with you people???
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