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Vietnam and Japan Advice

Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27107 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:31 pm
We're headed off to those two places next week. Spending a week and half in each country. Going to Saigon first, then Hoi An, then Hanoi, then Kyoto, then Tokyo. My wife has always wanted to go to Vietnam, so she's in charge of that leg, and I've always wanted to go to Japan, so I've researched that portion.

We have pretty loose itineraries in the different cities, but nothing set in stone. I'm open to anything. We're up for getting lost. Maybe things they don't list in the travel books or interesting things off the beaten path.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39588 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:46 pm to
There's pretty good Vietnam reviews in the sticky that was posted last month you should check out.

I hope you do one of those laser robot shows in Tokyo.
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 8:47 pm
Posted by cmlanier
Member since Mar 2013
120 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:36 am to
I’m very jealous of your plans! I went to Japan last month and Vietnam in 2015. Here are my recommendations;

HCMC
- I greatly preferred Hanoi and Hoi An, and would recommend spending more time there than Saigon if possible. The city has great food and nightlife (Bui Vien has some especially good restaurants and bars), but I felt that it lacked somewhat in sightseeing and is less unique (there are multiple Subways, McDonalds, and even Popeyes). I liked seeing the Vietnam War sites around the city, and would highly recommend going to the Cu Chi Tunnels and the War Remnants Museum.

Hoi An
-The Ancient Town is the central hub of the area and I would recommend staying near there if possible so you can walk around and see everything with ease. There are many cool shrines and old houses worth seeing in the Ancient Town, as well as some good restaurants and nighttime markets. I loved An Bang Beach and My Son Sanctuary (located outside Hoi An but has many cheap tour bus options advertised throughout the town). This would definitely be the place to take a cooking class or rent a scooter for a few days and trek around.

Hanoi
-Like Hoi An, I think Hanoi is a great walking city and a lot of the charm is being able to freely explore the Old Quarter. The street food is really good in this area and you almost can’t go wrong with wherever you choose. This is my favorite city in Vietnam. I enjoyed Hoan Kiem Lake, the Temple of Literature, and the many history museums around the area. Definitely consider taking a day trip to Halong Bay if you have time.

Kyoto
-I have been lucky enough to travel to almost everywhere in Asia, and this is my favorite place. The people in Kyoto are so kind and take pride in their city, and there is an atmosphere there unlike anywhere else I have been (I hope to one day have my honeymoon here). The city is beautiful and full of shrines, restaurants, and bars. It is very difficult to get from one side of the city to the other, since the subway line is limited and the old, narrow streets lead to a lot of traffic. I would recommend trying to divide your days into different parts of the city to avoid stress and optimize your time. My favorite things were the Arashiyama area, Fushimi Inari-Takisha shrine, the Gion neighborhood, and the Kiyomizu-dera shrine. Kyoto Station and Gion seemed to have the best restaurants.

Tokyo
-I found Tokyo to be very easy to navigate by subway and metro lines, and is definitely the easiest place to get around on your list. I loved the Taito and Ueno neighborhoods because of the “old-school” vibe, and would definitely recommend going to Senso-ji Temple and Tokyo Skytree (best at night) in this part of the city. Shibuya and Shinjuku are the best neighborhoods to see modern Japan — very commercial and full of bright lights. Shibuya crossing is the busiest intersection in the world and definitely worth visiting at night.

I hope you enjoy your travels!
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27107 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:17 am to
Right on! Thanks for the tips.

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I greatly preferred Hanoi and Hoi An, and would recommend spending more time there than Saigon if possible.


We are spending more time in Hanoi than Saigon and Hoi An. A couple days in Saigon and a couple more in Hoi An, then 4 days in Hanoi. One of the days is a trip to Halong.

I don't know a whole lot about Vietnam other than the food, so I'm looking forward to finding out more.

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I would recommend trying to divide your days into different parts of the city to avoid stress and optimize your time.


That's pretty much how I have things mapped out. SE, NW, far North, and Central. I'm a little worried about the language barrier and trying to figure out the buses.

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Shibuya and Shinjuku are the best neighborhoods to see modern Japan


We are staying a few blocks from the Shinjuku station. We unfortunately don't have a whole lot of time in Tokyo - just two days, so we are trying to cram a lot in.
Posted by luvdatigahs
Alameda, CA
Member since Sep 2008
3015 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 8:57 am to
I stayed at an onsen north of Kyoto next to a lake, it was amazing and easily accessible from Kyoto station. As stated previously, Kyoto is full of temples and shrines, the bus system is very efficient and can get you from one side of the city to the other. If you are planning on taking the Shinkansen from Kyoto to Tokyo I hope you already have the jr pass. Jr pass also works on many train lines within Kyoto and Tokyo. Tokyo is busy busy busy, pick certain things you want to do and don’t try to do too much. Some of their rail stations are immense and getting from place to place can take awhile even though the trains are very punctual. Have a great time, I loved Japan.
Posted by cmlanier
Member since Mar 2013
120 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:01 am to
If you have only two days in Tokyo, I’d skip the Imperial Palace grounds. This is a high-volume tourist spot and takes a while, and while it is a nice park, you will see much better versions in Kyoto. I’d recommend spending one day in Shinjuku and Shibuya and the other in Taito and Ueno
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16186 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:32 am to
I did a pretty lengthy review last month of Vietnam, including Hanoi, Hoi An, and Saigon. Here's the link if interested:

LINK

I'll agree with the other poster, of those 3 cities Hanoi was my favorite. I'd recommend staying in the Old Quarter, that is if you don't require a nice hotel and want a slice of authentic Vietnam. It's a different world in there.

Hoi An is pretty, but prepare for a ton of tourists everywhere. It was probably our least favorite city just because of that. But I say that with reservations as I don't know what y'all enjoy. Our trip consisted of alot of other adventurous outdoor stuff, which is what we enjoy, so Hoi An wasn't really our cup of tea. I'd recommend exploring the outskirts if you want to get away from the tourist hustle and bustle.

If y'all like to shop, this is where to do it. There are a ton of cool little shops with everything you can imagine, and not just your run of the mill dinky souvenir shops.

I also agree with the other poster about Saigon. It's just a really big city, with tons of traffic, and not as much "flavor" as the other cities. I'd also recommend the War museum, and the Chu Chi tunnels, which are actually abt an hour outside of the city.

This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27107 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:30 pm to
I really enjoyed your thread.

We are staying in the Old Quarter in Hanoi. My wife and I know zero Vietnamese, so we're expecting some difficulty, but I'm not sure exactly how much to expect.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6007 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 4:56 pm to
I've never been to Vietnam, but have been to Osaka, Kyoto, and Tokyo.

Are you flying into Osaka or Tokyo? Because if you're doing Kyoto it is easier to get to from Osaka vs. Tokyo and you're not backtracking. There's a commuter rail from Osaka to Kyoto for about $15usd.

Kyoto was my favorite city in Japan. It's historic and modern at the same time. It's full of restaurants and bars and just a lot to do. Plus it's the cleanest city I've ever seen.

We took the bullet train from Kyoto to Tokyo. It took about 1.5 hours and was $150usd. If you take the train from Kyoto stop at the department store inside the station and get a Wagyu beef ekiben box (and some beers) for the ride.

Tokyo was pretty cool, it's impossible to see everything in even a week. The subway is super expansive and efficient. Getting around should be no problem.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16186 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 3:28 pm to
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My wife and I know zero Vietnamese, so we're expecting some difficulty, but I'm not sure exactly how much to expect


I'd say you'll probably have the least problems in Hoi An. They cater to tourists very well.

Hanoi and Saigon will be hit and miss. You'll be fine at hotels and most restaurants, but maybe 50/50 otherwise. We stayed and ate at some obscure places where English was very minimal, so my GF was a savior in those situations.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65762 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 2:07 am to
Never been to Viet Nam, but spent a decent amount of time in Japan.

Kyoto is wonderful, solid choice for anywhere other than Tokyo.

Guided tour (in English) of the Imperial Complex in Kyoto was well-done.

If you have ten days for Japan, I’d spend at least half of those in Tokyo.

In Tokyo, consider the Battleship Mikasa ( Engrish Website Link ) in Yokosuka, southeast of City Center.

I’m a museum ship guy, so it was a must for me.
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