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Rome, Florence/Tuscany...skip Venice?

Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:48 am
We are still pondering going to Italy in December (I know, not the greatest time, it is what it is) and have a somewhat limited amount of time: 9 days, but that includes travel days.

We are debating on the whole whirlwind shuffle: 2 nights in Rome, 2-3 nights Florence, 2-3 nights in Venice.

Or just spend 3-4 nights in Rome and 3-4 nights in Florence and take our time, putting in day trips here and there. It would kind of be a shame to miss out on Venice, but I guess I'm asking:

Would you skip Venice to have a more relaxing trip with more time in two regions? Or try and fit it in because I can't miss it? (Or, alternatively, skip Florence and do Venice)

Not looking for advice on every other city and region of Italy.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:06 am to
I've never been to any of the other locations but I've been to Venice. Needless to say I was able to see all of the local attractions in a day but didn't travel to some of the islands near by.
It was something I appreciated but would be fine with skipping over from here on out.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11672 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:07 am to
Go see my post in the sticky. Maybe that will help you some. From everything we read prior to our trip, we skipped Venice. I've heard you can do it in 1.5 days. You might be able to do it on a full day trip.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

We are debating on the whole whirlwind shuffle: 2 nights in Rome, 2-3 nights Florence, 2-3 nights in Venice.


id do this

Id see as many areas as possibly. Id do 3 in Rome, 3 in Florence, 2 in Venice

I wouldn't rush Rome, there is a lot to see. I bet it's better in the offseason TBH and the Vatican is probably nice during Xmas. Not as hot and not as many people. Split up the popular stuff so you can really enjoy it

Not as many landmarks and such in Florence, but it's the kind of place you want to have a few days to soak in, just walk around and explore without a real itinerary, eat and drink etc. And it's a good locale to do a day trip (Siena is awesome, i enjoyed it more than Florence tbh)

Never been to Venice but even if you get 1 night there, it would be cool to see another city
Posted by 337tigergirl
Houston
Member since Jan 2012
6556 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:22 pm to
I loved loved loved Venice. Cinque terre is my second favorite.

I spent 2 and a half days and I wish I would have stayed a bit longer. I spent my time relaxing and doing my own cichetti bar tour. It was so chill and relaxing. It was also the most beautiful place I have ever seen.

I went in early April so it wasn't peak time.

Rome was my least favorite. Packed with Americans and just all around hectic. The sites would be better during off season if there is one
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115469 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

The sites would be better during off season if there is one


December is definitely off season, although you get a little spike of people coming in for XMas.

Thanks for the info guys, the debate continues.

I've been kind of liking the idea of just doing Rome and Florence, because it would give us more time to wander, explore, and take day trips if we desired. And it is a good bit less expensive to skip Venice. However, I was bummed about skipping Venice a bit.

Still thinking.
Posted by 337tigergirl
Houston
Member since Jan 2012
6556 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:39 pm to
If you are into packing your days with activities, Venice doesn't have too much.

If I could have redone the trip, I would have done Venice at the end. It was pretty relaxing and nice to do nothing but admire the views.

I still suggest doing at least one day. It's only a 2-1/2 hour train from Florence. I would fly out of Marco Polo.
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4445 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

I loved loved loved Venice. Cinque terre is my second favorite.
Posted by Jackalope
Paris. (Austin Native)
Member since Apr 2009
2252 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:09 pm to
Skip Venice. One of the biggest tourist traps I have been to.

Go to Florence, and Rome. And Sicily is a great, and cheap place to explore, with amazing food and the highest concentration of gorgeous women I have seen.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34011 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:15 pm to
There is a high speed train from Rome to both Venice and Florence. Cinque Terre is cool but I prefer Capri. Additionally, winter in Cinque Terre can be rough along that coastline and the weather can be quite chilly. In Rome I suggest a convenient spot. On one of my trips there I stayed at the Hotel Universo. It is three blocks from the train station (Roma Termini) and most of the sites are a nice downhill stroll from there (the Colosseum, the Spanish Steps, and Trevi Fountain...which connects to the Pantheon and later to the Piazza Navona via a pedestrian walk). Campo di Fiore is just across the street from the Piazza Navona. The Vatican is a cab ride from there though. By high speed train, Venice and Florence are day trips from Rome for me. Both can easily be seen in a day during the offseason in terms of the highlights. Use the internet or get the hotel to set up a private tour guide for each including meeting you and dropping you off at the train station (Florence has two, just FYI) in the city you are visiting. IIRC, it's just short over an hour and a half each way. Additionally, you can take a train south to Naples and do Capri/the Amalfi coast/ or Pompeii. Rome is an old dirty city but it is one of my favorites. Any way you slice it, have a safe trip and enjoy it.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12261 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:15 pm to
9 days counting travel days is not enough time to visit 3 cities without running yourself ragged. If you have never been, Rome is a must. I would spend at least 5 days there. Venice is one of the most beautiful and unique places on earth and you can get a good feel for it in a couple of days. It is more about experiencing the ambiance rather than having dozens of things to do and see. I would save Florence, Tuscany and the Cinque Terre for next time.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11672 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:10 pm to
Do not spend five days in Rome. Spend Three max. Line yourself up with enough tours and self-guided Rick Steve's App walks, and get to Florence. Spend a few days here with a definite trip to Tuscany. Hell take two wine tours like I did.

When you're in Florence, you won't miss Rome one bit. It's an absolute must see in your life, but I won't go back unless I'm taking my kids.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115469 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:38 pm to
I was thinking 3.5 days in Rome and 4.5 days in Florence with at least 1 side trip.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:04 pm to
I would do Tuscany over Venice then
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:33 pm to
Bunchie, I just got back, spent a week total in the Tuscany region (Florence and Siena). Im in the food and wine biz so I enjoy that type of thing, did 4 different wine tours, ate a the Michelin starred places, did all the main attractions etc.

Did 3 days in Rome, but Ive been there before. Florence is great and I hate even having to pick a side, but I think you'd be better served doing more time in Rome. Dont sell yourself short there if you spending the money IMO. The history and the attractions there can keep you busy, excellent restaurants, all that jazz

It's going to be a knock out time regardless. Just throwing in my opinion.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12261 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:43 pm to
What was your Michelin starred restaurant and some of your favorite wineries I will be in Tuscany for a week next Easter and am always looking for new recs.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115469 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:12 pm to
Would love to get a rundown from you and some recs.

I was thinking of a day trip to Modena to go to Osteria Francescana but not sure if that will happen.

I've got a lot of things in mind restaurant wise in Rome, just started looking at Florence.

Really not sure we will be doing Michelin star everything like we have in France and England. Really looking for a more relaxed type of thing.

I haven't been to Italy.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:20 pm to
Wife is sleeping and I can't find the journal she kept. I got some notes and such. I will post a few recs tomorrow
Posted by TigersMaul Bammers
Normandy Park, WA
Member since Apr 2009
871 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:35 pm to
If you are taking a spouse/girlfriend, I recommend visiting Venice too. Way more atmospheric and romantic than Florence. Walking back to hotel in Venice around 4 am after the Saints won the Super Bowl in 2010 was unforgettable.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8790 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:37 am to
We did Venice and Florence last year. Three days in Venice was overkill. It is a beautiful city with lots of history, but you can do it in a day. As one person mentioned fly home from Venice. Marco polo has seasonal service to the U.S. but all the major European carriers have flights that will connect you with a flight home from their hubs. Perhaps take an early morning train from Florence, get into Venice and do it right, then spend the night at a hotel by the airport.

If you stay in Venice you will likely need to take the water taxi or water public transit to a bus to the airport. Its kind of a pain, and your flight would likely by an early AM departure so on second thought, maybe not.

We loved Florence, and I would highly recommend a day trip to Sienna, St. Gimmigano, and other surrounding towns. Florence was amazing in spring.
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