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re: My trip to Cuba (Final update, link to album of all pictures added)

Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:22 pm to
You are a partner in a cigar shop in Dallas? Do yall have Cubans? Asking for a friend.... lol no seriously for me and a friend. I live in Dallas and would love to try one!
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Jackalope
Paris. (Austin Native)
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:08 pm to
I went back in 2008 on a chamber of commerce visit. I'm thinking about going back again. Questions on how things have changed/what things cost now:

- There were quite a few of the classic cars back then, I'd say almost 30% of cars on the streets. Is that still the case?

- Is a meal still about $3-4?

- Are cigars still about $4-5?

- Can you still grab a shared ride city to city?

- The Hershey train was very very spotty, is it still pretty bad?
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:12 pm to
Yes to all of your questions, minus the last one, which I don't know.
Posted by Jackalope
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:15 pm to
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Do yall have Cubans?


There are Cubans at every duty free store. If you're not travelling, ask a friend who is international to bring some in. Embargo now allows Cuban products up to I think $1,000
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3182 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:28 pm to
I did not know this. Thanks
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:58 pm to
So...you are going to donate to a commie, a-hole dictator, while most people in Cuba have nothing? You are just as bad as that a-hole Castro
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:19 pm to
You're an idiot.

And if you're truly a veteran of Vietnam, thank you for your service. But the war is over. It's a global economy.

And unless you've never in your life purchased a product made in China, which I guarantee you have, you're a hypocrite, which I guarantee you are.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6698 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:18 am to
I do not purchase anything from a commie country. So you think going to Cuba spending money while poor people are suffering is right???
If the government of Cuba took care of its poor it would be different. I have friends who has family were in prison for years. I hav friends who family were killed, whose family lived in poverty. Do you think people who visit will go see these people, give them money directly?
No I am not a hypocrite just someone who feels sorry for those in need while a dictator lives in luxury. Occasionally I smoke a cigar, have never smoked a Cuban, cigars from other South American Countries are better anyway
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 7:13 am to
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No I am not a hypocrite just someone who feels sorry for those in need while a dictator lives in luxury. Occasionally I smoke a cigar, have never smoked a Cuban, cigars from other South American Countries are better anyway


Ah yes, South America. A land known for those in poverty being well cared for and humane treatment for those in prison.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 7:15 am
Posted by Jackalope
Paris. (Austin Native)
Member since Apr 2009
2252 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 10:15 am to
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I do not purchase anything from a commie country.


Yes you do. China and Vietnam. Liar.

Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6698 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:19 pm to
Jackalop

I am not a liar, I buy USA, may pay more but my

Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6698 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:23 pm to
Abita.

Thanks for your nice comment n my service, and yes I am a Vietnam Vet, I have physical and Mental scars still after 50 years.

Like everyone I have my opinion I would rather support my Veterans than give money to a Commie. Do you have friends who have family who suffered in Cuba.? I do

Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26551 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Do you have friends who have family who suffered in Cuba.? I do


Well my great-grandfather was a dentist in Havana and escaped with my great-grandmother and grandmother to the United States, so no. I don't have friends who have family, I have family.

What I'm arguing with you about is the fact that you say you don't give money to a communist country, which is next to, if not entirely impossible. The phone/tablet/computer you are using to access Tigerdroppings is almost guaranteed to have come from China, or at the least components of that device did. Your clothes, shoes, car, materials used to build your home, if you've eaten at fast food restaurants...most of that stuff likely came from China.

So if you don't want to give money to Cuba for personal reasons, that's absolutely your prerogative. But saying you don't give money to "commies" is just factually incorrect.

Although for the record, tourism directly gives money to the people of Cuba as well. I stayed in an AirBnB in Havana, paying the owners of the apartment directly in cash. I asked them for recommendations of local places to eat and drink, and anyone who ever served us or drove us in a cab got tipped.

Claiming someone that goes to Cuba as a tourist is as bad as Fidel Castro himself is beyond ridiculous.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6698 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
Demario...

I apologize for my calling you an a@@@@@@. Just have bad feelings from friends whose family suffered from Castro regime.
I feel very bad for those who will not receive funds from those who visit

Posted by Jackalope
Paris. (Austin Native)
Member since Apr 2009
2252 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 2:03 am to
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I am not a liar, I buy USA, may pay more but my


Calling BS. No American household is all American. And I am willing to bet not a single American household lacks chinese goods. And much of your seafood comes from Vietnam.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:23 pm to
Call me 214 503 0181 come by the shop and let's talk.
Very nice cigars 2639 Walnut Hill 158 75229
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 7:28 pm
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:26 pm to
There are still reasonable meals, etc.. but not at the tourist places. Fell free to call me I have a lot of friends that go.

Eat at the "paladares" not at the hotels .. cigars is pot luck, but I can connect you. My partner had a cigar factory in Cuba.

You can have clean and nice places to stay for $ 35 - $ 50 per night.

I will be going in July 2018 (end of) First time in 55 years. I need to see my uncle before he passes.
For those going... just do not be taken BY THE BEAUTY AND THE PROPAGANDA...look inside the city for the poverty so you understand socialism in Cuba.

Everything is about presenting an image of success while most suffer. $25 month average income.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 5:49 am
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:04 pm to
Well, I have finally been talked into going to Cuba after 57 years.
Not really a trip I want to take for many reasons, but I need to see an uncle who is 87....leaving on july 23 (short trip)

For sure a bittersweet trip. A lot of my Cuban friends go 2 -3 times a year so I am pretty informed and up-to-date on what's going on. My partner in the cigar shop will be there at the same time and I will meet up with him...he is current on things over there.

I will try to take a lot of pics ...
some from the real Cuba and some
from the propaganda Cuba.



BTW do not count on the Hershey train.
The last hurricane took care of that... "supposedly" they have partial service ONE TRAIN .. but this is Cuba and I would not count on it. Check on it when you get there.

This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:49 am
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 1:49 pm to
Hope to have some pictures ready (posted) next week.
Made a quick trip to Havana, just got back.
July 27th ... will post ASAP
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:10 pm to
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namvet6566


Damn you're fricking annoying
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