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re: traditional PC desktops are dead. discuss.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 11:17 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 6/1/14 at 11:17 pm to HubbaBubba
work from home and love the desktop
will always have one, with my laptop and tablet of course, lol
will always have one, with my laptop and tablet of course, lol
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:40 am to CAD703X
I still like a big screen monitor and full function keyboard.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:05 am to CAD703X
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Who said anything about servers?
GD you are stupid.
His post about servers and the cloud would actually support your theory of the desktop being dead.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:11 am to BigSquirrel
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Strongly disagree. Anything that needs performance demands a desktop. People don't want expensive crap that runs programs slower than their old clunker did.
I agreed with this line of thought until I started with my current company..Out of roughly 5000 users, around 4000 are running laptops, the others desktops. Equivalent desktops. I'm telling you that once you have run an i7, laptop, and an i7 desktop running the exact same programs and internals(CAD included), you'll think differently.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:17 am to stout
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GD you are stupid.
His post about servers and the cloud would actually support your theory of the desktop being dead.
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Wait. So servers aren't going to move to iPads form?
The cloud bruh... No need for servers if you have the cloud right?
i think you are the one who is stupid
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:41 pm to Casty McBoozer
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No, not dead. They've lost a lot of popularity with people who never really used them. There's a large portion of the population who just need a web browser. The tablet market is taking that over
I think it's actually a good thing for the PC market that the terrible desktops (Gateway, Dell, etc) are no longer the default computers for people.
Consumers demand more, and the computer illiterate have the option for Apples.
We've come a long way from the days when 95% of computers were booted up for the first time with a lot of malware.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:57 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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I'm telling you that once you have run an i7, laptop, and an i7 desktop running the exact same programs and internals(CAD included), you'll think differently.
Well for one... it is impossible for them to have the exact same internals.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:06 pm to CAD703X
Lol. Cmon CAD....
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:21 pm to whodatfan
CAD brought a noodle to a tank fight when arguing with ILikeLSU, the man knows his shite.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:48 am to SG_Geaux
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Well for one... it is impossible for them to have the exact same internals.
In regards to nothing "extra"..No add on cards, same processors, etc
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:23 am to CAD703X
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I guess this would very by industry.
Mobile devices are certainly very functional, but they aren't optimal in many cases. I'm much faster/more productive using a mouse and keyboard on the desktop than doing things on a tablet.
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You think the fact PCs are currently in vogue for gaming will drive major manufacturers to continue building desktops? You think that's enough to sustain r&d?
Gaming PCs have always been a niche, but how much R&D do you need in a fairly mature industry. Desktops can easily share the same components as mobile. What makes Desktops better isn't necessarily the power, although in some cases that's true, it's the interface. Now fast forward 10-20 years when today's kids are making up a good chunk of the work force and touch interface is native to them and it's been refined enough that everything you lose going from desktop to touch (right click menus, hover menus), is regained through gestures that are as natural to them as right clicking is to us, then you might see the end of the desktop.
But input (keyboard/mouse) isn't the only issue. There is also output. A 10 inch tablet is no match for a large monitor. Also, most tablet apps are installed via an App Store. Is there anything even remotely close to central administration of tablets like you have with the Windows Server/Desktop environment? Granted you can buy a tablet that runs Windows, but with as much money as businesses have invested in central servers and virtualization, it seems like it would take a while for them to support tablets in the same way they currently support desktop environments.
Is the PC desktop dying? Yes, but it's dying like Blockbuster was dying in 1999, and we've only seen the forebearers to what's going to replace it.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:30 am to GrammarKnotsi
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In regards to nothing "extra"..No add on cards, same processors, etc
I will grant you, if everything is the exact same, of course you would want the smaller form factor.
But everything is not the same. A Core i7 in a laptop is not the same as a Core i7 in a desktop.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:38 am to SG_Geaux
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A Core i7 in a laptop is not the same as a Core i7 in a desktop.
I blindly believed what the previous support had told me....Looking deeper into this now, as the highlight of my day is always making him look bad..
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:46 am to stout
I always get a bit of a chuckle at this discussion. Desktops are alive and well at my company. 
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:54 am to GrammarKnotsi
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I blindly believed what the previous support had told me....Looking deeper into this now, as the highlight of my day is always making him look bad..
i7 is a brand. It's kind of like cars.
A Toyota Camry is not a Toyota Camry. You get one with a 4 cylinder and you can get one with a 6 cylinder even though they both say Camry on the outside.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:07 am to SG_Geaux
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i7 is a brand. It's kind of like cars
I get this, I'm just looking at i7 4600 vs i7 3520..To tell me that one of these "runs noticeably slower" while running extremely similar setups is kind o crazy..I'm always happy to download more RAM for that user also..
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:31 am to jdd48
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Desktops are alive and well at my company.
said the typerwriter & newspaper salesmen.
this argument here is that its days are numbered.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:35 am to CAD703X
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said the typerwriter & newspaper salesmen.
Guessing JDD works for a local engineering firm..Where he hears the same argument I do regarding "power of laptops vs desktop"
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:44 am to CAD703X
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this argument here is that its days are numbered.
Not exactly the same as
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traditional PC desktops are dead
Seriously, this is like Blockbuster, even though the writing is on the wall, it's not going to happen quickly. And in a sense the Blockbuster business model is still thriving via RedBox. Now RedBox's days are numbered as well, but video rental is still not dead long after most people publicly declared it to be.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:57 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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At home I'd tend to agree. At the workplace, not really.
This.
In the business world there is more of a move to laptops and virtualized desktops than tablets. Until tablets can do everything a laptop/desktop can do (Java, Flash, etc) as well as have at least support for regular keyboards (those tiny, flat keyboards are only somewhat better than typing via the screen), tablets will not be more than a status symbol in an office environment.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 9:58 am
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