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re: SONOS speaker owners..how much freedom do you have? UPDATE 2 PAGE 11
Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:49 am to NOLAGT
Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:49 am to NOLAGT
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had a company do the bulk while building and worked with them in the planing of it all.
Cool, was just curious who did it given the area. The rack, the MR4300, and the amps are all product lines of mine.
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:52 am to TigerWise
Intec...I provided some things myself that I picked up along the way. Rest was from them...
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:34 am to TigerWise
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CAD might think your set up is dumb because it's still like a traditional install with speaker wires. I'm sure CAD just unplugs his one speaker, drags it outside, plugs it on an outlet, fires up his phone app, and calls it automation.
dammit, i was drinking coffee.
i'm buying more speakers...they don't exactly grow on trees you know.
i call it 'prototyping' my house.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:36 am to NOLAGT
CAD quietly exits this thread, head hung in shame.
seriously, though. lets get marcos in this thread and have an AV pissing match. he's more a tube-and-vinyl kind of guy though, no wireless for him.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 1:19 pm to CAD703X
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marcos in this thread and have an AV pissing match. he's more a tube-and-vinyl kind of guy though, no wireless for him.
No match required...I think that was the one I was thinking of with all the beautiful Mclntosh apms??
Posted on 5/11/17 at 1:34 pm to NOLAGT
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No match required...I think that was the one I was thinking of with all the beautiful Mclntosh apms??
thats him. crazy crazy audiophile setup.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 4:11 pm to CAD703X
who gives a shite about wireless, i just want a system where you can control and group speakers like Sonos does.
for hoe much you pay for amps you shoudl be able to to hook you more than a handful of speakers and be able to put the same or different feeds to each speaker.
for hoe much you pay for amps you shoudl be able to to hook you more than a handful of speakers and be able to put the same or different feeds to each speaker.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 5/11/17 at 4:25 pm to CarRamrod
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for hoe much you pay for amps
A 2channel 50 watt amp is a hell of a lot cheaper than a SONOS amp. Which is 50 watts x 2 with basically a wifi steamer on it.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:08 am to tilco
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Right. Seems simple to us but in reality for most folks it's not. Not to mention different audio levels for different inputs.
Everytime I go to either my parents house or my inlaws, there is an issue with their receiver/TV/Music/whatever.
Every. Single. Time.
They both have harmony remotes they screw up, Sonos, etc.
I can't figure out why this is so complicated for them.
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NOLAGT
I've already decided when I renovate my house, I'm doing that. I want stereo speakers hooked up to a Connect:AMP in my shower.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 9:12 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:02 pm to TigerRob20
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stereo speakers hooked up to a Connect:AMP in my shower.
You laugh but I gave that some thought lol. I was going to use marine speakers. They are 4ohm but the sonos connect is 4ohm stable thats why you can hook 4 8ohm speakers up bridged. Should be feeding them 100x2 at that point.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:53 pm to NOLAGT
I've been following this thread since the beginning . It greatly helped me decide on my purchase of the Sonos ecosystem.
WE flooded as i mentioned in previous posts and I wasnt sure if I wanted to rehab what survived my old 5.1 budget system. (An entry level pioneer tuner (200$) and a 5.1 polk in a box setup that included a polk powered sub)
I went last Saturday to BB and got a new tv and was going to walk out with just he playbar to start the climb..They manager dude asked why i wasnt getting the sub and I just straight said "too much money right now" He said, let me see what kind of deal I can make brb . I'm thinking "these things never go onsale
"
Guy comes back and says " If you buy now I'll give you the sub for 599" ..and I was like put it on the ticket pappa gonna get it
After a week I have listened to it every single day. Happy with sound quality. Planning on getting two play ones to complete the 5.1 setup.
If anyone is reading this thread still and can afford the price tag, you wont be disappointed with the purcahse
WE flooded as i mentioned in previous posts and I wasnt sure if I wanted to rehab what survived my old 5.1 budget system. (An entry level pioneer tuner (200$) and a 5.1 polk in a box setup that included a polk powered sub)
I went last Saturday to BB and got a new tv and was going to walk out with just he playbar to start the climb..They manager dude asked why i wasnt getting the sub and I just straight said "too much money right now" He said, let me see what kind of deal I can make brb . I'm thinking "these things never go onsale
" Guy comes back and says " If you buy now I'll give you the sub for 599" ..and I was like put it on the ticket pappa gonna get it
After a week I have listened to it every single day. Happy with sound quality. Planning on getting two play ones to complete the 5.1 setup.
If anyone is reading this thread still and can afford the price tag, you wont be disappointed with the purcahse
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:55 pm to NOLAGT
Two 4ohm speakers would be a 2ohm load on the amp. You would need four of those 4ohm speakers wired in a series parallel to work with a connect amp.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:29 pm to TigerWise
I was thinking you would hook the 2 4ohm speakers up like standard LR for 4ohm per channel. Thats what it says in there paperwork...no?
Think we not talking about the same. I have 4 8ohm on some of my boxes but if I were doing speakers for the shower id do 2 of the boat kind that are 4ohm ea.
Attaching 2 speakers to the CONNECT:AMP
Traditionally, most bookshelf speakers are 8 ohms, though a pair of 6 or 4 ohm speakers will also work with the CONNECT:AMP.
Attaching the speaker wire to the CONNECT:AMP:
Use your thumb or finger to firmly push the spring-loaded speaker connector post inward to reveal the connection hole.
Insert the stripped end of the speaker wire into the hole, and then release. The stripped portion should be caught firmly in the connector post.
2 Speaker Configuration
Speaker Impedance
Watts per channel
8 Ohms
55 Watts
6 Ohms
73.5 Watts
4 Ohms
110 Watts
Think we not talking about the same. I have 4 8ohm on some of my boxes but if I were doing speakers for the shower id do 2 of the boat kind that are 4ohm ea.
Attaching 2 speakers to the CONNECT:AMP
Traditionally, most bookshelf speakers are 8 ohms, though a pair of 6 or 4 ohm speakers will also work with the CONNECT:AMP.
Attaching the speaker wire to the CONNECT:AMP:
Use your thumb or finger to firmly push the spring-loaded speaker connector post inward to reveal the connection hole.
Insert the stripped end of the speaker wire into the hole, and then release. The stripped portion should be caught firmly in the connector post.
2 Speaker Configuration
Speaker Impedance
Watts per channel
8 Ohms
55 Watts
6 Ohms
73.5 Watts
4 Ohms
110 Watts
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:53 pm to NOLAGT
Never read the paperwork. That's pretty cool.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:57 pm to LSU_postman
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Guy comes back and says " If you buy now I'll give you the sub for 599" ..and I was like put it on the ticket pappa gonna get it
Saving a Hundo never hurts! I have the playbar and a connect:amp powering 4 in ceiling speakers and it gives it a nice "surround sound" type effect (probably not 100% true surround but it does the job for us). I am debating saving the 700$ for the sub but can you tell a marked difference between just playbar and playbar + sub, especially for TV/Movies?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:16 pm to DoubleDown
The difference is NIGHT AND DAY with the sub. Also if you have a connect amp running some ceiling speakers you can make it connect to your playbar for REAL 5.1 if you are getting a DD 5.1 input into the sound bar.
Yea Tiger I usually dont either
You can hook 4 8ohm up...2 per channel...amp sees a 4ohm load per ch and delivers the 110w so its the same 50ish as if you had just one 8ohm per ch. I guess if you were trying to be real cost effective you could hook a total of 8 8ohm speakers up to one connect and send about 27w to each one. I bet with a good sensitive speaker you could get some good sound out of it all.
Yea Tiger I usually dont either
You can hook 4 8ohm up...2 per channel...amp sees a 4ohm load per ch and delivers the 110w so its the same 50ish as if you had just one 8ohm per ch. I guess if you were trying to be real cost effective you could hook a total of 8 8ohm speakers up to one connect and send about 27w to each one. I bet with a good sensitive speaker you could get some good sound out of it all.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:24 pm to DoubleDown
Can tell a difference in music a ton. I have only watched the Force Unleashed and it was at night and kids wewre sleeping so I could not crank it..Will report back when I do.
I debated on getting the amp to connect old Polk stuff but the Sonos Customer service lady said it would only work with music and not sound. My original plan was to get the connect amp and have a 5.2 system...But it would not work with movies according to the Sonos CS rep online.
I debated on getting the amp to connect old Polk stuff but the Sonos Customer service lady said it would only work with music and not sound. My original plan was to get the connect amp and have a 5.2 system...But it would not work with movies according to the Sonos CS rep online.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:32 pm to LSU_postman
Not following. What polk stuff do you have?
Few things....sonos does not support .2 (2 subs). You do NOT want 2 different subs in one area (sonos and polk if you have it) they will fight with each other and sound like poo most of the time unless tuned to do so.
How are you getting the sound to the sonos bar...from the back of the TV or out of the cable box?
Few things....sonos does not support .2 (2 subs). You do NOT want 2 different subs in one area (sonos and polk if you have it) they will fight with each other and sound like poo most of the time unless tuned to do so.
How are you getting the sound to the sonos bar...from the back of the TV or out of the cable box?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:53 pm to NOLAGT
the CS rep from sonos told me as much when i asked her about doing that. (I hada polk sub from a previous 5.1 setup) SHe said it would of worked by plugging the sub to the subout on a sonso connect:AMP but only for music not movies.
Currently I have a Playbar connected to optical of my TV and then I have the Sonos sub.
I basically chose to get the playbar and sub instead of playbar and Connect:Amp because I wanted to keep it all wireless and I intend on using any additional play 1's or 3/5's to move them in and out of other zones for when we are entertaining.
Currently I have a Playbar connected to optical of my TV and then I have the Sonos sub.
I basically chose to get the playbar and sub instead of playbar and Connect:Amp because I wanted to keep it all wireless and I intend on using any additional play 1's or 3/5's to move them in and out of other zones for when we are entertaining.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:02 pm to LSU_postman
Ahh ok wasn't sure if you had polk speakers to use as rears. You could hook the sub to the connect amp...I dont know if it would also bond with a sonos sub as well. I have a amp with s sub plugged in and another amp with the sonos sub but not on the same box. Regardless it will sound like poo with 2 running in the same area.
Currently you will NOT get 5.1 DD to your soundbar and sub from your TV. It will sound even better (for movies) once you fix that. Depending on the TV it MIGHT send 5.1 via the optical out...but likely not. IF you are using the smart TV apps on the TV then it might send DD out of the optical.
A fix if your using something other than the smart tv apps...they have boxes that are HDMI in and out and on the out portion they have a optical output that takes the sound from the HDMI. So say Apple TV to the box via HDMI then HDMI out to the TV and optical out to the sound bar. They also make HDMI switches like this so if you have more than one source.
You can tell what is being put into the sound bar if you go into setting in the sonos controller and look at the "about" section. Then you sill see either stereo, 2.0 or 5.1. It makes a big difference in sound when you get 5.1. Music is not effected since its streaming off the soundbar.
Your idea for rears will work perfectly. Its not hard in the controller to add and remove devices. So you will have the 2 play *s set as rears...then if you want to move them you will have to re set them as regular speaker zones.
Currently you will NOT get 5.1 DD to your soundbar and sub from your TV. It will sound even better (for movies) once you fix that. Depending on the TV it MIGHT send 5.1 via the optical out...but likely not. IF you are using the smart TV apps on the TV then it might send DD out of the optical.
A fix if your using something other than the smart tv apps...they have boxes that are HDMI in and out and on the out portion they have a optical output that takes the sound from the HDMI. So say Apple TV to the box via HDMI then HDMI out to the TV and optical out to the sound bar. They also make HDMI switches like this so if you have more than one source.
You can tell what is being put into the sound bar if you go into setting in the sonos controller and look at the "about" section. Then you sill see either stereo, 2.0 or 5.1. It makes a big difference in sound when you get 5.1. Music is not effected since its streaming off the soundbar.
Your idea for rears will work perfectly. Its not hard in the controller to add and remove devices. So you will have the 2 play *s set as rears...then if you want to move them you will have to re set them as regular speaker zones.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 4:05 pm
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