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Posted on 4/8/16 at 5:24 pm to TigerWise
So a mobile phone is not a legit form factor to manage an installed alarm over a captain Kirk LED panel?
Do those not exist more for show and margin than legit function?
Do those not exist more for show and margin than legit function?
Posted on 4/8/16 at 5:32 pm to CAD703X
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Do those not exist more for show and margin than legit function?
Security dealers don't make money on the systems, it's monitoring. Hell the big guys give the equipment away.
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So a mobile phone is not a legit form factor to manage an installed alarm over a captain Kirk LED panel
There is one on the market, Resolution Products Helix, and it doesn't sell worth a frick. End users still want hard keypads. The same can be said for whole home audio.
FWIW- I work with a/v and security dealers across the region everyday with numerous product lines. I get plenty feedback.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 5:43 pm to TigerWise
And Verizon and att give away state of the art iPhones. Would you argue Apple doesn't make huge margins off those just because the end user thinks it's free?
How is the alarm industry different?
Eta and phones look radically different than even 10 years ago.
Those alarm panels look like they did in 1982. You don't think this is an industry ripe for an overhaul?
How is the alarm industry different?
Eta and phones look radically different than even 10 years ago.
Those alarm panels look like they did in 1982. You don't think this is an industry ripe for an overhaul?
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 4/8/16 at 5:52 pm to CAD703X
It's the samething. Apple sells the phone to the phone company, phone company gives you the phone so you sign a contract.
Now you just trolling cuz you ain't that stupid
Now you just trolling cuz you ain't that stupid
Posted on 4/8/16 at 5:54 pm to TigerWise
See my edit above. You are defending a form factor that looks no different than it did in 1982.
What's your big innovation since? Wireless door sensors? Throwing in a smart deadbolt? Providing a mobile app? Retinal scan?
Eta I'm not crapping on your industry I'm just ready for something NEW
What's your big innovation since? Wireless door sensors? Throwing in a smart deadbolt? Providing a mobile app? Retinal scan?
Eta I'm not crapping on your industry I'm just ready for something NEW
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 4/8/16 at 5:59 pm to CAD703X
And that's where you don't know what you're talking about. Systems aren't the same as 82.
I thought your argument was making money selling equipment
Have a nice night CAD
I thought your argument was making money selling equipment
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there's always a ying/yang installers who make a living setting up high-margin systems
Have a nice night CAD
Posted on 4/8/16 at 6:01 pm to TigerWise
same to you. Enjoy your weekend
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:45 am to CAD703X
I love my nests. I am never standing in front of them to manage the temp. I typically use my phone. My HVAC system doesn't have huge swings in temperature, so there is no need to see the temperature on the screen
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 7:46 am
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:23 am to CAD703X
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See my edit above. You are defending a form factor that looks no different than it did in 1982
My alarm panel does all the 1982 stuff plus all the same smart home things you do with your Wink. I can trigger automation events when alarm contacts are tripped. Can also trigger events based off my location with geofencing. Set scenes etc etc
Edit: almost forgot and integrates with Nest
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:13 pm to CAD703X
I bought 3 nest cams last year, I was planning on buying the thermostat sometime this year. Kinda glad I read this thread, the only downside will be I was looking forward to integration with the cameras.
I just hope alphebet doesn't shut down the cameras some day
I just hope alphebet doesn't shut down the cameras some day
Posted on 4/10/16 at 3:16 pm to BaddestAndvari
Guys can we please leave the personal shite out of the threads on this Board? If anyone researches Ton Fadell and Nest on any mainstream Tech site they'd see CAD is 100% on with Nest. They're a smoldering cinder right now. An incredibly expensive one with a tyrannical Chief, hundreds of millions in losses and no products to show for them...
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:08 am to GFunk
And another player exits Stage Left...
LINK
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Important Message from Staples regarding Staples Connect
To Our Valued Staples Connect Customers,
Staples has been proud to develop and offer the Staples Connect Smart Home Hub and related smart home products. While we will be making an announcement in the coming weeks about what the future of Staples Connect looks like, we can tell you we will continue to support you, our Staples Connect customers. Updates will be made to the Staples Connect App so it remains compatible with your current products, and our customer service team can help you with any questions you have about your existing Staples Connect system. More details to come, but please know we will ensure no disruption to your current service.
LINK
Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:24 am to CAD703X
Why didn't they just press the 'easy' button? I don't know why Staples put out a smart home hub to begin with.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:28 am to Korkstand
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I don't know why Staples put out a smart home hub to begin with.
always found it odd myself
Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:15 am to CAD703X
No, but you can't deny that Nest is focused on that kind of clientele, the high end of techphiles.
It's not unreasonable to assume they have a smart phone within 3 feet at all times.
It's not unreasonable to assume they have a smart phone within 3 feet at all times.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:22 am to Volvagia
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No, but you can't deny that Nest is focused on that kind of clientele, the high end of techphiles.
It's not unreasonable to assume they have a smart phone within 3 feet at all times.
so you're saying NEST deliberately makes the UI hard to read because they aren't interested in selling thermostats to people without smartphones glued to their hands?
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