re: Is 4k worth the extra $

No, I meant distinguishable, in the direction of compressed 4K actually looking better (in a way that's clear enough to be recognized) than full bitrate 1080P via future improvements in either compression efficiency or higher bit rates.

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Integrating it into a fully integrated control room or boardroom, well... there isn't going to be much of an initial push to put it in, but there will be a few that demand and expect it, and for those, that means the large expensive videowall or three/four projector blended wall, or large 15' wide touchscreen in the collaboration space would just see a big black blank spot as far as 4K Blu-Ray is concerned. There will be pissed off customers that want it and won't be able to be cause you're talking major revisions to infrastructure that already exists.

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I got you - it's one thing for a consumer to grumble about having to get the right $36 cable to replace the old $18 - and done. It's another for a large customer to say, "I want to go 4k - panel prices seem cheap enough" - and you and your guys having to say - "Well - one panel at one point is one thing, but to fully integrate 4k - you're talking hundreds if not thousands of dollars to redo all the switching, cabling, conduits - we can't jut swap in a 4k panel and say 'That's it.' And the thousands that's going to be a good bit of labor AND parts."

Sounds like your scamming them - when it is the manufacturers and copyright holders who have conspired to scam us all.

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Sounds like a good problem for integrators

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It's a double-edged sword, for sure. On one hand, you stand to gain incremental business retrofitting, but on the other hand, you'll have customers that will blame you because the system you put in that cost $2 Million last year is suddenly obsolete and they'll just think you knew this was coming and didn't prepare them for the coming reality.

I have one enterprise system I designed for an energy company last year. This feeds across their entire company to virtualization rooms, boardrooms, conference rooms, platforms in the GOM and training centers. The video matrix managing that, by itself, without the extenders and codecs required, cost over $2 Million by itself, just for the chassis and the I/O cards. It is HDCP compatible across the board, but not for HDCP 2.2. If HDCP 2.2 were as the rest of the HDCP schemas, then no problem. But they removed the backwards compatibility, so this entire system, along with every extender, every cable, every codec, every display, every switch, every control system is suddenly obsolete because of the non-backwards compatibility. That is a huge fricking deal in a system that cost over $10 Million installed. There is virtually nothing in the system that can be salvaged in a solution that incorporates an HDMI 2.2 schema for a fricking Blu-Ray player.

Is that an opportunity? Likely, no. Who in their right mind is going to go before the CIO and CEO and say, "we need to ditch our visual communications systems because we REALLY want 4K Blu-Ray?" THAT ain't happening.

Is 4K Blu Ray even something they need ?

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That's not the same customer that's bitching you rip them off when you have to upgrade equipment though.

You do this work all over the country ?

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quote: think this is called soap opera effect. it happened to most people when they jumped from tube tvs to flat screens with HD.

yeah it took me a while to adjust

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