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I'm new to building PCs... recommend me a few pieces of hardware please
Posted on 6/8/15 at 8:16 am
Posted on 6/8/15 at 8:16 am
I currently have the following:
Antec GX500 Window Case
GIGABYTE GA-X99-UD3 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Gold
SanDisk Extreme PRO 480GB
I'll probably pick up some 16 GB G.Skill ripjaws DDR4.
I'm not a gamer, but I do want to future-proof the PC and have the ability to run photoshop and lightroom.
What video card and processor should I get given my current setup? What else do I need?
Antec GX500 Window Case
GIGABYTE GA-X99-UD3 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Gold
SanDisk Extreme PRO 480GB
I'll probably pick up some 16 GB G.Skill ripjaws DDR4.
I'm not a gamer, but I do want to future-proof the PC and have the ability to run photoshop and lightroom.
What video card and processor should I get given my current setup? What else do I need?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:34 am to meeple
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I'm not a gamer
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What video card
Doesn't really matter unless you plan on doing 3D stuff.
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and processor
Core i7-4790K
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SanDisk Extreme PRO 480GB
You are going to need more storage than that if you are a heavy PS and LR user. Buy a smaller SSD and a 3-4TB HD
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 9:36 am
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:37 am to SG_Geaux
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Core i7-4790K
Agreed, but if you aren't overclocking, the 4790 is just fine.
Go to PCpartspicker.com and they will match parts for you very easily. They also have some sample builds from other users.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:38 am to seawolf06
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Agreed, but if you aren't overclocking, the 4790 is just fine.
Very true, which I am sure the OP is not doing.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:21 am to SG_Geaux
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You are going to need more storage than that if you are a heavy PS and LR user. Buy a smaller SSD and a 3-4TB HD
I've got some other HDs for storage.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:22 am to seawolf06
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PCpartspicker.com
Yeah I'll check that out thanks
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:38 am to SG_Geaux
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Core i7-4790K
Anyone read his list of parts he already has?
OP, give me a budget on the parts you haven't purchased yet. And more details on what you'll use it for, as much detail as possible.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:17 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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OP, give me a budget on the parts you haven't purchased yet. And more details on what you'll use it for, as much detail as possible.
I'm only going to use it for occasional photoshop and lightroom use> No gaming. I probably went overkill on the SSD, and I am considering returning the motherboard as this pretty much limits me to the more expensive DDR4 RAM and the i7-5820k processor (currently at $389).
I wanted to stay around the $700-$800 for the PC build (not including monitor), so the SSD takes up a significant portion of that. Maybe I just have to eat some of that cost and consider that to be over budget?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:46 pm to meeple
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I probably went overkill on the SSD
Nah. SSD is currently the single biggest performance improvement you can make.
If you already have large hard drives, just get a 128GB SSD for the Operating System
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:54 pm to SG_Geaux
It's a 480 GB SSD. If I could send it back for a 128 GB I would.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:04 pm to meeple
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It's a 480 GB SSD. If I could send it back for a 128 GB I would.
Ah, I was thinking it was new and unused yet
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:38 pm to meeple
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I am considering returning the motherboard as this pretty much limits me to the more expensive DDR4 RAM and the i7-5820k processor (currently at $389).
I would highly recommend you do this and just grab a Asus Z97-E or something around that price, or an H97 board if you're definitely not going to overclock.
Quite a few of the benefits of X99 would be wasted for your use, such as the additional PCIe 3.0 lanes and quad-channel memory. And aside from costs associated with that chipset, you're also sacrificing some performance in most of Lightroom and Photoshop's functions, believe it or not. The 4790K's cores are a good bit faster than the 5820K -- part of the compromise to fit 6 cores with hyperthreading on the die. Even for the lightroom and photoshop tasks that are multithreaded, they'll only use 4-5 threads effectively, at best (i.e., there are hardly any measurable performance benefits of 6-core CPUs for the most common tasks in those programs, and the same applies to quite a few of Adobe and Autodesk's other workstation applications as well). The 4790 also has higher per-core performance, but not as much as the 4790K, which has a default clock speed of 4.0GHz with 4.4GHz Turbo (vs. 3.6GHz/4.0 Turbo for the 4790). So, there's at least some benefit to the 4790K even if you don't overclock. Basically 10% more performance for 10% more money, so either one is a decent choice.
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Maybe I just have to eat some of that cost and consider that to be over budget?
I would, or do what SG said and downsize the SSD (EDIT: Just saw that you said it's not returnable). Regardless, you should absolutely return the X99 board unless you're building a rendering workstation for frequent and intensive use.
If you want to save even more money, why not just forgo the i7 and get an i5-4690K or 4690? Same single-threaded performance as the regular 4790, just no hyperthreading. You lose some of the added benefits in tasks that actually do effectively take advantage of more than 4 threads, but realistically, we're talking about a matter of a couple of seconds in processing time for a huge photo. Unless you're editing large batches of super-duper high-res photos at a time, it's really not an issue whatsoever.
I'd say grab a Z97 or H97 board, an i5-4790, and this RAM -- you'll save close to $300 and probably won't notice a bit of a difference.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:29 am to ILikeLSUToo
Thanks for the responses. I think I got a great price on this X99 MB ($140), I'm still wondering if I need to keep it to future proof my computer. I'd really like to keep this one for another 8-10 years like the one I've got now.
Would a possible option be to grab a Xeon E5-2603, and in a few years down the road upgrade to an i7-5820k after prices on those go down? I'm just wondering if the Xeon would be able to handle basic "light" photoshop/lightroom tasks?
If this would work, it would save me about $170 vs getting the i7 now.
Would a possible option be to grab a Xeon E5-2603, and in a few years down the road upgrade to an i7-5820k after prices on those go down? I'm just wondering if the Xeon would be able to handle basic "light" photoshop/lightroom tasks?
If this would work, it would save me about $170 vs getting the i7 now.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:31 am to seawolf06
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Agreed, but if you aren't overclocking, the 4790 is just fine.
Is the i7-4790 a good future proofing option to last 8-10 yrs?
Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:49 am to meeple
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I'd really like to keep this one for another 8-10 years like the one I've got now.
Not worth trying to do IMO. PC's even 5 years from now will be far more powerful than they are now.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 10:36 am to SG_Geaux
Have you checked out PC Parts Picker? It's a pretty good resource for anyone building a PC these days.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 10:45 am to meeple
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Is the i7-4790 a good future proofing option to last 8-10 yrs?
Not something that can really be done. 10 years ago, multi-core processors were brand new. AMD had just released the AMD 64 x2 in February 2005.
That said, an x99 2011-v3 may be overkill for what you need.
That said, I just rebuilt around x99 and a 5820 and the thing is extremely fast. However, I use it as a virtualized test environment so I push it pretty hard.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 10:46 am to meeple
It's like you didn't read anything I said. If you get that Xeon instead of the i5, you are stupid.
And there is no such thing as future proofing a computer.
And there is no such thing as future proofing a computer.
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 11:00 am
Posted on 6/9/15 at 11:05 am to ILikeLSUToo
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And there is no such thing as future proofing a computer.
My power supply should still be good in a decade.
ETA:
ILike, should the ATAPI device be getting 6Gb/s and if both SSDs show 6 is that what I'm getting with the array?
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 11:27 am
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