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Help me pick a new receiver

Posted on 8/22/16 at 9:24 am
Posted by MyNameIsInigoMontoya
Woodlands
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 9:24 am
My Denon X2000 has died and I'm looking to replace it. What is a comparable Onkyo or Yamaha that you guys would recommend? It will be used primarily as a 5.1 for movies/TV, but I do have a second zone outside. The input can be the same for both zones. Definitely want something that accepts at least 5 HDMI inputs and supports ethernet. I also really liked the Denon app that let me control it from my phone, so a feature like that is preferred.

What would you suggest?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:54 am to
The Marantz NR 1606 is decent, will do all you've asked about, have a similar app (Denon and Marantz are owned by the same parent company), and it will run you $499 on Amazon (prime shipping). $50 less will get you a refurbished model.

They do have a newer version out, but I don't think you'd need it.


There are plenty of other options out there, but I just bought that one for my father.

8 HDMI 2.0 in, HDCP 2.2 compliant, zone 2 powered or line out, no zone 2 video (must step up to a bit more expensive model to get that), Bluetooth, airplay, wifi and Ethernet. The control app is pretty nice. It can all be controlled by the device's IP address through a webpage, too, if you prefer (like on a laptop. Or at least the setup can be done. I think volume/input is an option, too). Then, of course, streaming radio, Pandora, iHeartRadio. I think Spotify. Standard AM/FM. lastly, it has main zone L/R RCA out if you find it underpowered and wanted to add an amp (low likelihood).
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77976 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:04 am to
My Yamaha has an app, but I found that I never use it.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:10 am to
There pioneer app is also quite nice/useful. SO's parents use it for dual zone use. Does a good job of sorting libraries on attached storage, too.
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4081 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:59 am to
Easy. LINK
Posted by MyNameIsInigoMontoya
Woodlands
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:11 pm to
I don't know if I want to get another Denon. The last two I've had both had issues.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 7:01 pm to
I have a refurb denon 1713 that's older than that one and has never even blinked at a problem.
Posted by MyNameIsInigoMontoya
Woodlands
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 8:36 am to
On my most current one, the front left channel has died. It only produces a tiny crackling sound...almost like a muted version of a torn speaker cone. I verified it's not my speakers or speaker wire. I opened up the receiver to see if I could find any loose connections inside. Beyond that, I don't know how to troubleshoot it.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1422 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 2:47 am to
I bought a Marantz SR7008 a couple years ago and it's been working great. Never had any issues and it gets used for hours almost every day for TV, movies, and games. While performance is the main criteria, I liked the design alot more than comparable models from Pioneer and others.

In the future whenever I upgrade for 4K support; Marantz will be the first I look at.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Marantz SR7008


Any reason you went 7 series over 6? I'm an sr6009 owner myself but didn't need the extra extra HDMI out or small bump in power. I more or less just like to hear about badass setups and am curious as to what you're doing with that machine.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1422 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:45 am to
The 7s use Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 for the automated speaker calibrations. The 6s use the XT version. Also the 7s come with Audyssey SubEQ which lets you calibrate dual subwoofers if you have them.

Whether or not XT32/SubEQ is a significant upgrade or not I don't really know. If you google, there are several threads on various HT sites and the general consensus is it makes a difference especially for multichannel audio (movies and tv) which is my primary use.

If you don't use the automated calibration then it wouldn't matter, but I think most people do.

My HT is in the basement of my townhouse and it is far from ideal acoustically. So I wanted to have the best room correction technology and I got a great deal at the time so it was an easy decision.

Posted by MyNameIsInigoMontoya
Woodlands
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 2:53 pm to
I'm leaning towards this:
YAMAHA RX-A730

Thoughts?
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1422 posts
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:06 pm to
I believe that model only supports HDMI 1.4. While it supports pass through of 4K; it wouldn't support 4K@60Hz only 30Hz. Also 1.4 doesn't support HDCP 2.2 which means 4K copy protected content won't work either.

If I was buying a new receiver today I'd want one that supports HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted by MyNameIsInigoMontoya
Woodlands
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:14 am to
This one mentions HDMI 2.0, but I don't see anything about HDCP 2.2. Would that be stated somewhere in there? Pardon my ignorance.

YAMAHA RX-V677
Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
885 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:25 am to
If you are going to have a 4K DVD player or have Direct TV 4K services, I would wait to buy a receiver. Best Buy sent out an email in reference to 4K video not passing through any of their receivers....

We have actually had numerous clients calling with the same exact issue is you. All of them had different receivers is not just pioneer. We think that there some type of formatting issue with DirecTV like I said you were not the only one a client that we have dealing with this right now. As soon as I have some more answers I will be in touch with you I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you.

Sent from my iPhone
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8631 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:30 am to
I have a Yamaha VX 671 I think it is.

I have been happy with it, dual zone is nice. Keep in mind, you cant play HDMI in zone 2 tho, which isn't ideal for playing music from phone.

There is a work around, I have my apple TV set up with audio out through component cables also and wire them to a non digital channel which lets it play. But it's not as loud.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:33 am to
I think a lot of Best Buy's issues are the end user not knowing what they are doing.

I've seen 4K pass through hundreds of AVRs
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 10:35 am
Posted by MyNameIsInigoMontoya
Woodlands
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:18 am to
Cid,
Does the Yamaha have the ability to make ALL audio stereo, so that it will play from Zone 2? My Denon had a feature called "Party Mode" that would do just that...it took the HDMI source and made it stereo, so that the same HDMI digital source could play on both zones simultaneously?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:49 am to
That would be nice because it pisses me off that I cannot play the sound from my living room TV outside. Also a Denon but I don't think I have "party mode"
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1422 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

This one mentions HDMI 2.0, but I don't see anything about HDCP 2.2. Would that be stated somewhere in there? Pardon my ignorance.

YAMAHA RX-V677


According to Crutchfield that model does not have HDCP 2.2.
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-CkBCJuQ9ers/p_022RXV677/Yamaha-RX-V677.html
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