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Free Windows 10 updgrade
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:41 am
Just noticed a notice on my laptop that I can upgrade to Windows 10 for free. Says it is the complete version, not a trial, and no catch.
I reserved a download, so we'll see when I actually get it. Anyone else getting this notification?
I reserved a download, so we'll see when I actually get it. Anyone else getting this notification?
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:44 am to AnonymousTiger
I'm an idiot and everyone should click update or accept whenever anything pops up on their computer.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:45 am to colorchangintiger
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:58 am to SG_Geaux
The screen shots in that link are exactly what I got today. Thanks for the link too, it has directions at the end that might get the update to go ahead and start instead of waiting. I think I'll try it and see what happens.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:45 am to colorchangintiger
Not Malware.
The notification popped up on my system yesterday.
For Windows 7 & 8, anyone who wants it, will get 10 for free.
They said that offer will last for one year.
The notification popped up on my system yesterday.
For Windows 7 & 8, anyone who wants it, will get 10 for free.
They said that offer will last for one year.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:54 am to colorchangintiger
quote:
Congrats on the malware
Congrats on not keeping up with anything that does not involve your narrow world
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:05 am to GrammarKnotsi
hey man, i subscribe to /r/android and /r/technology. I have an Xbox One. I run Windows via Parallels. Can't keep up with everything. Sorry a reservation system for an OS upgrade seems extremely foreign to me.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:06 am to AnonymousTiger
Reserved mine last night.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:09 am to AnonymousTiger
For anyone currently running Windows Media Center, be aware of the following:
Here Are the Features Windows 10 Will Remove When You Upgrade
To remove the Windows 10 update icon, you need to uninstall Windows Update KB3035583.
LINK
quote:
Remember, Windows Media Center is NOT included with Windows 10. So if you install Windows 10, it will prompt you that it will REMOVE Windows Media Center (unless this changes at a later point). It IS NOT an installable option as of right now, in a nut shell, go to Windows 10 and you will have no more Media Center.
Here Are the Features Windows 10 Will Remove When You Upgrade
To remove the Windows 10 update icon, you need to uninstall Windows Update KB3035583.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:33 am to DragginFly
Good info. I don't use Media Center, so it shouldn't be a big deal to me to lose it.
I am wondering if this update will severely slow down my computer though.
I am wondering if this update will severely slow down my computer though.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:53 am to AnonymousTiger
quote:What are you running now.
I am wondering if this update will severely slow down my computer though.
Windows 8 runs faster than Windows 7 so I don't expect 10 to be slower.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:58 am to TigerMyth36
I'm running 7 on the laptop that got the notification. I only use it for the web and very occasional word processing. But it only has an i3 Core in it.
I know, time to upgrade. I'm waiting to see what the new Surface Pro will be like when it comes out later this year.
I know, time to upgrade. I'm waiting to see what the new Surface Pro will be like when it comes out later this year.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:12 am to AnonymousTiger
I have been running Windows 10 betas in virtuals and it is a very nice operating system, imho. It is to windows 8 as 7 was to Vista.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:17 am to WavinWilly
I liked 8 so any improvement is gravy.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:49 am to colorchangintiger
quote:
I'm an idiot and everyone should click update or accept whenever anything pops up on their computer.
You probably just should've googled before responding.
For anyone else concerned about the update: This is just Microsoft attempting to market Windows 10 better than they did 8 so the adoption rate isn't abysmal. They want to make sure the masses, and not just readers of tech news, know Windows 10 is free and that their computers can run it. The hardware requirements are the same as 8.1, same as 8, same as 7. They want everyone on 10, so they're trying to make it as easy as possible.
If you're wary of upgrading immediately, don't. You have a year from 10's release to upgrade for free if you'd prefer to wait for a few hotfixes/updates.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 6:56 pm to DragginFly
quote:
go to Windows 10 and you will have no more Media Center.
I use WMC on my HTPC for DVR but would like Win10. I'm really hoping someone finds a way to hack it in. That or maybe the DVR for Kodi gets beefed up.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:50 pm to LSshoe
quote:
I'm really hoping someone finds a way to hack it in.
Highly unlikely. Split partitions and use MythTV or the Mythbuntu distro. Or check out the Silicon Dust project- it may even wind up supporting the CopyOnce channels. The Kodi one isn't bad. Emby (formerly media browser) works quite similarly, requiring Windows Media Server (or whatever that little server is called. I believe that's correct).
Outside of Copy Once channels, there's a handful of options that are functional.
ETA- sagetv will be open source in the next few months, too.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:05 pm to Hopeful Doc
I don't really follow this segment of the market -- is there any business reason for discontinuing WMC? Are they trying to migrate users over to another MS product with equivalent features? I think I've opened WMC maybe twice in my life and found it to be redundant, but I don't see why it wouldn't just be left in there as a downloadable option.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:24 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Open task manager, kill GWX.exe
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:49 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Well, it's not redundant with other windows products, such as WMP (or even VLC if you want to go non-Microsoft) because it incorporates the "10-foot interface" as opposed to the "3-foot interface" and everything (literally, everything. No feature is Left out or requires a mouse/keyboard) is navigable by a remote (simulates keyboard press combos).
Most importantly, it includes an "all in one" DVR solution (it's both a front end and backend with a very nice GUI. Several other options, like Kodi/Emby are only front ends that require a separate backend for the tuners. Others, like MythTV, can be either or both, including over the network to separate machines).
The 10-ft interface is great for an HTPC, but Kodi, Emby, et al have largely replaced its functionality. WMC had Netflix support. Many people wrote add ins, but they were clunky as heck and failed often. Others were OK. The community developers were loyal and dedicated, but it appeared to be a fairly difficult platform and wasn't nearly as organized as the other 10-ft GUI programs by its nature.
It's big plus is that it struck a deal with digital cable providers to allow a DVR. That's the easy part (which is also absent from all the Microsoft exclusive offerings that would make it "redundant" (though "perfectly redundant" probably wasn't your literal intention)). They were able to negotiate to allow even the HD channels marked "copy once" (I forget whether you can even back them up or not, but a yet-to-be-cracked DRM that allowed the ESPN and HBO to agree to let their 720p broadcasts be stored on people's computers). That was probably a significant cost (to develop the DRM) for a fairly small group of end users. The "DVR and place shifting game" was big in the 05-08ish era, and WMC was pretty much the king. To date, it's the only software that allows certain channels to be recorded (up to the channel and the provider as to whether it's "marked" copy once or not. So if you used essentially any other program on one of those channels there, you wouldn't even be able to watch the show/event/etc). They spent money and created an elite product that garnered the interest of a small audience. They're pissed as hell that it's going away (TheGreenButton is a forum for WMC and a fairly awesome forum, as far as tech goes, with a group who knows a hell of a lot about what they're talking about freely sharing good info. There are even threads about "what's next/where to turn" and a petition or two to MS to keep WMC).
In addition, I recently learned that Guide Data (like on your cable box, back when you had one...or have you not convinced the wide to drop the habit of surfing for trash tv as background noise instead of seeking out what she wants to watch? I forget) doesn't come free. I assumed it would be fairly easy to tell WMC who your provider was (from a list) which would then go scrape their regional website for it. Apparently, it doesn't really work that way. And guide data doesn't come cheap, so it's an ongoing expense for as long as they support WMC. Heck, TiVo charges $15/mo/device (or, with a lifetime subscription, roughly 3 years of their monthly fee up front...$500) for their guide data.
So the failure of the 10' interface to be widely accepted + other non-Windows exclusive 10' interfaces that are superior in pretty much every way except for the one that actually cost them to upkeep was probably enough for Microsoft to say "oh well."
I'd pay probably as much as $50 for it to appear in the Windows App Store, as is, and up to maybe $5/mo for guide data. Beyond that, I'd buy a TiVo and bite the bullet on lifetime subscription. Also, SiliconDust, a very popular producer of internal and external (especially networked) tuners is creating their own software, mostly just for DVR +/- place shifting, if I'm not mistaken, that will be something like $30/year and be the first 3rd party group to include the fancy DRM as above that should allow all the channels, rather than allowing, basically, an opt-out for the more in-demand ones that are "worried about pirating." There was a kick starter that was funded and met stretch goals for, at least, Kodi integration of the non-DRM channels.
Most importantly, it includes an "all in one" DVR solution (it's both a front end and backend with a very nice GUI. Several other options, like Kodi/Emby are only front ends that require a separate backend for the tuners. Others, like MythTV, can be either or both, including over the network to separate machines).
The 10-ft interface is great for an HTPC, but Kodi, Emby, et al have largely replaced its functionality. WMC had Netflix support. Many people wrote add ins, but they were clunky as heck and failed often. Others were OK. The community developers were loyal and dedicated, but it appeared to be a fairly difficult platform and wasn't nearly as organized as the other 10-ft GUI programs by its nature.
It's big plus is that it struck a deal with digital cable providers to allow a DVR. That's the easy part (which is also absent from all the Microsoft exclusive offerings that would make it "redundant" (though "perfectly redundant" probably wasn't your literal intention)). They were able to negotiate to allow even the HD channels marked "copy once" (I forget whether you can even back them up or not, but a yet-to-be-cracked DRM that allowed the ESPN and HBO to agree to let their 720p broadcasts be stored on people's computers). That was probably a significant cost (to develop the DRM) for a fairly small group of end users. The "DVR and place shifting game" was big in the 05-08ish era, and WMC was pretty much the king. To date, it's the only software that allows certain channels to be recorded (up to the channel and the provider as to whether it's "marked" copy once or not. So if you used essentially any other program on one of those channels there, you wouldn't even be able to watch the show/event/etc). They spent money and created an elite product that garnered the interest of a small audience. They're pissed as hell that it's going away (TheGreenButton is a forum for WMC and a fairly awesome forum, as far as tech goes, with a group who knows a hell of a lot about what they're talking about freely sharing good info. There are even threads about "what's next/where to turn" and a petition or two to MS to keep WMC).
In addition, I recently learned that Guide Data (like on your cable box, back when you had one...or have you not convinced the wide to drop the habit of surfing for trash tv as background noise instead of seeking out what she wants to watch? I forget) doesn't come free. I assumed it would be fairly easy to tell WMC who your provider was (from a list) which would then go scrape their regional website for it. Apparently, it doesn't really work that way. And guide data doesn't come cheap, so it's an ongoing expense for as long as they support WMC. Heck, TiVo charges $15/mo/device (or, with a lifetime subscription, roughly 3 years of their monthly fee up front...$500) for their guide data.
So the failure of the 10' interface to be widely accepted + other non-Windows exclusive 10' interfaces that are superior in pretty much every way except for the one that actually cost them to upkeep was probably enough for Microsoft to say "oh well."
I'd pay probably as much as $50 for it to appear in the Windows App Store, as is, and up to maybe $5/mo for guide data. Beyond that, I'd buy a TiVo and bite the bullet on lifetime subscription. Also, SiliconDust, a very popular producer of internal and external (especially networked) tuners is creating their own software, mostly just for DVR +/- place shifting, if I'm not mistaken, that will be something like $30/year and be the first 3rd party group to include the fancy DRM as above that should allow all the channels, rather than allowing, basically, an opt-out for the more in-demand ones that are "worried about pirating." There was a kick starter that was funded and met stretch goals for, at least, Kodi integration of the non-DRM channels.
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