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re: First experience using Android Pay in the store

Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:50 pm to
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YMMV, obviously, but it works the same for me at this time as it did before. I'm not sure what you are referring to


Well it didnt work at all last night. See OP. However, maybe it was just a hardware issue. Point granted on that.

But it doesnt EXACTLY work like it did before. Until Chase comes on board i still have to have a passcode on my phone as well as the app. Pretty ridiculous. But that's just a temporary issue. So i won't gripe about that.

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The only difference now is that when your bank is on board, it will cut out one step that you used to have to engage in.


But also adds having to have a passcode at all times. So sure it makes the 4 times a month you use android pay quicker, but the 7 times a day you have to unlock your phone slower.

To me that's the biggest issue with it.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:57 pm to
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But also adds having to have a passcode at all times. So sure it makes the 4 times a month you use android pay quicker, but the 7 times a day you have to unlock your phone slower.

To me that's the biggest issue with it.


I see. Have you enabled on body detection? That will assist you in keeping it from locking some of the time?
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 2:00 pm to
That's not something i'm familiar with, but I will look into it.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 2:02 pm to
It should be in your security settings. Will keep the phone unlocked (reasonably well) if it is in your pocket or on your person.
Posted by NELA LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2011
1167 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 3:18 pm to
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But also adds having to have a passcode at all times. So sure it makes the 4 times a month you use android pay quicker, but the 7 times a day you have to unlock your phone slower. 


This! I don't want nor do I need the hassle of a PIN to access my phone. On a rare occasion that I might allow someone else to use my phone I have no significant concerns since any matters of security are managed by password or individual PIN's. Android Pay changes this by forcing the same PIN for both the phone AND the app. I fully realize that the time required for lock to be engaged and trust management can somewhat mitigate the frequency of the phone PIN being required. However, this is a bandaid workaround for a problem that never existed. A separate PIN for the app offers better overall security and a far greater level of convenience at the user's discretion. For that matter, anyone that wanted a PIN for both could do so but not be forced to arbitrarily. A huge majority of the reviews substantiate this view is widely held. Again, I loved the convenience of Wallet but Android Pay is a non-starter for me in it's present form.
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:15 pm to
Having written an app built around NFC, I can tell you that you should be thankful that you're forced to have a passcode entered to ensure that all NFC activity must be explicitly approved. NFC is neat, but without the right protection in place, it'd be dead simple for you to end up unknowingly transmit data to a 3rd party whose motives are shady.

The second I got it write to a tag once and saw how easy it was for me to walk by with a device, quickly snipe the data, and walk away, I immediately started working on a few security methods. NFC is a really neat feature, but after working with it on Android, I'm alright without it.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:25 am to
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Having written an app built around NFC, I can tell you that you should be thankful that you're forced to have a passcode entered to ensure that all NFC activity must be explicitly approved. NFC is neat, but without the right protection in place, it'd be dead simple for you to end up unknowingly transmit data to a 3rd party whose motives are shady.



I'm not sure you understood the point. No one said no passcodes on NFC. But the passcode has to be entered to unlock the phone, not when you use the NFC app.

Obviously you would want a code there.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 5:38 pm to
I want to bring this back for an update. Ever since I got 5.1.1, android pay has been shite. I use to be able to just unlock my phone and use it. Now it tells me my bank isn't supported and makes me do another pin. If this is what the op meant, I agree. However, on the first version of android pay, it didn't matter what card you had because it went through the account you had on file for play purchases. It was flawless and awesome. I will now quit using this garbage until it fixes this stupid shite.
Posted by LSU Tiger 216
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
4026 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:04 am to
I think once every android is equipped with finger print scanners this won't be an issue. This is obviously a preparation for that. I used to use android pay and wallet but I've been using Samsung pay since its release and it has been legit. I love being able to use it even without using NFC
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 7:36 am to
I want that but only have a Note 4. It can't have it.
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