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Audio for new home
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:33 pm
I don't keep up with the latest in home audio trends. We're building a 3500 SF / 2 story house and am wondering if systems like Sonos negate the need for in ceiling speakers. This would be for our living room, whole home audio, etc.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:20 pm to nolanola
I'm no expert from everything I've read on the 'net and on here it basically boils down to how particular you are about "true" 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound vs. a soundbar and "simulated" surround sound.
Sonos is easy, minimal wires, and very interchangeable and movable. A receiver and hard wired speakers will sound better but more of a pain in the arse to wire up front and plan ahead.
It really just depends on what you want to do. I have a receiver and 4 in ceiling speakers that came pre-wired when my house was built. However, between my wife and kids, I may almost ditch it and move towards sonos.
Simplicity with wife and kids >>>>> the difference in sound, for me. Everyone is different though.
Sonos is easy, minimal wires, and very interchangeable and movable. A receiver and hard wired speakers will sound better but more of a pain in the arse to wire up front and plan ahead.
It really just depends on what you want to do. I have a receiver and 4 in ceiling speakers that came pre-wired when my house was built. However, between my wife and kids, I may almost ditch it and move towards sonos.
Simplicity with wife and kids >>>>> the difference in sound, for me. Everyone is different though.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:21 pm to DoubleDown
One additional note, you could always go with in ceiling speakers and buy the Sonos Connect:AMP ($499 I think) and the AMP will give those pre-wired speakers power and make them available to be used with the Sonos app and such. It also turns them into a "Zone" if your familiar with Sonos.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:12 pm to nolanola
If I were building I would do in ceiling speakers
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:53 pm to nolanola
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This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:21 am to XanderCrews
I'm building a new house and considering in-ceiling wired speakers. This will cover the kitchen/living area and outdoor area in the back. I'm thinking about using the Connect:Amp to power the auxiliary speakers throughout the house.
Can I use my receiver's Zone 2 as an input option in the Connect:Amp?
Does the Connect:Amp allow volume control of each channel?
Any other comments on this option?
Can I use my receiver's Zone 2 as an input option in the Connect:Amp?
Does the Connect:Amp allow volume control of each channel?
Any other comments on this option?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:22 am to LSUtigerME
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:10 am to LSUtigerME
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Any other comments on this option?
Is zone 2 powered ?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:48 am to LSUtigerME
If you have a receiver, you can use the Connect w/o Amp. It essentially turns your receiver into a Sonos Zone.
The Connect w/Amp can be used as well, but it is more expensive.
Also, look on ebay for the older versions (ZP-80,90,100,110, etc.) Pretty much the same tech and you can get them for around half the price as the new stuff.
Search my old posts for more Sonos discussion.
If I were building new, I'd do the following:
Family Room and Media Room - 7.1 Channel Receivers with in wall speakers and subs with Sonos Connect w/o Amps for each.
2-4 in wall speakers in guest areas - Kitchen, Dining, Patio, Pool, Porch, etc. with a Sonos Connect w/Amp for each room.
Either 2 in wall speakers with Sonos Connect w/Amps or a stand alone Sonos speakers (Play 1, 3, 5) in each Bedroom.
Of course, as another poster said, this would all be routed back to a central media closet.
The Connect w/Amp can be used as well, but it is more expensive.
Also, look on ebay for the older versions (ZP-80,90,100,110, etc.) Pretty much the same tech and you can get them for around half the price as the new stuff.
Search my old posts for more Sonos discussion.
If I were building new, I'd do the following:
Family Room and Media Room - 7.1 Channel Receivers with in wall speakers and subs with Sonos Connect w/o Amps for each.
2-4 in wall speakers in guest areas - Kitchen, Dining, Patio, Pool, Porch, etc. with a Sonos Connect w/Amp for each room.
Either 2 in wall speakers with Sonos Connect w/Amps or a stand alone Sonos speakers (Play 1, 3, 5) in each Bedroom.
Of course, as another poster said, this would all be routed back to a central media closet.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:09 am to nolanola
Buy one two-channel rig loud enough to be heard through the whole house...problem solved.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:21 pm to TigerRob20
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TigerRob20
Hijacking this thread some but with a Sonos Connect wired to my receiver, can I listen to music on my 7.1 setup and leave my TV playing normal TV w/out sound?
Essentially the same concept as the Sonos Playbar but using my receiver and 7.1 speakers instead of the Playbar.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:15 pm to DoubleDown
I would say probably not, but it may depend on the receiver. Essentially you would need to be able to use two inputs at the same time, or at least control separate video and audio outputs.
For example, TV/Satellite is on HDMI 1, Sonos Connect w/o Amp is on AV 1. When the receiver is on HDMI 1, video is sent through the HDMI output on your receiver and audio is sent to the speakers (7.1). If you switch over to AV 1, you could send Sonos media through the speakers, but your TV isnt getting the signal from HDMI 1 anymore (since it is on a different input).
Does that make sense? It may bring up another idea, where your Sonos could be connected to Zone 2 of a 7.1 Channel receiver, where you could play HDMI 1 through 5.1 Channels and Sonos through the other 2 channels.
For example, TV/Satellite is on HDMI 1, Sonos Connect w/o Amp is on AV 1. When the receiver is on HDMI 1, video is sent through the HDMI output on your receiver and audio is sent to the speakers (7.1). If you switch over to AV 1, you could send Sonos media through the speakers, but your TV isnt getting the signal from HDMI 1 anymore (since it is on a different input).
Does that make sense? It may bring up another idea, where your Sonos could be connected to Zone 2 of a 7.1 Channel receiver, where you could play HDMI 1 through 5.1 Channels and Sonos through the other 2 channels.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:45 pm to TigerRob20
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Does that make sense? It may bring up another idea, where your Sonos could be connected to Zone 2 of a 7.1 Channel receiver, where you could play HDMI 1 through 5.1 Channels and Sonos through the other 2 channels.
This is what's I basically what I was proposing to do, except using an :Amp to power the speakers on an "independent" circuit.
I would use the line outs for Zone 2 of my receiver and connect them as an input of the Sonos Connect:Amp, then run these lines to my speakers.
This would allow the Sonos to power my speakers independent of my receiver, regardless of its status. My receiver would handle all the HDMI inputs for A/V and transmit to my TV and the 5.1. If I wanted to play my receiver through the Zone 2 speakers, I would simply let the Connect:Amp handle those speakers through its line input.
Is the Connect:Amp only 2 channels and 8 ohm stable?
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:51 pm to LSUtigerME
LINK
Here is the link to the spec sheet.
FYI, it looks like the Connect Amp may not have RCA Output anymore. (Also, the ZP-120 doesn't have it, but the ZP-100 does).
Here is the link to the spec sheet.
FYI, it looks like the Connect Amp may not have RCA Output anymore. (Also, the ZP-120 doesn't have it, but the ZP-100 does).
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:55 pm to Jimbeaux28
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Just built a 3300sf house and used HTD.com to plan and install my whole home audio system and have been more than thrilled with the system. LINK
This look great. Thanks
Which system did you choose? Did you self install?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:54 am to nolanola
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don't keep up with the latest in home audio trends.
this being the case you will probably be just fine with the Sonos stuff.
I have it all over my home and love it, the app is really slick, setup is dirt simple, and they sound great as long as they are sized appropriately for the room.
I'm quite sure the high end audio stuff will sound better in a direct comparison, but for a non-enthusiast (such as myself) the Sonos is more than adequate.
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