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re: Tim Howard to return to USMNT after GC

Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28422 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:25 pm to
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TN Bhoy


You get attacked for something called "persistent infringement," to use a soccer term.

quote:

Tim Howard isn't trying to make another WC team


He is. He has stated that he would like to be in contention for a spot on the 2018 team.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:28 pm to
I'm actually with Bhoy on this one. Howard is a good keeper but he's pretty overrated on this board, especially lately when he's been kind of shaky. Guzan may be the better overall option. If Jürgen wants to discard people for taking breaks and "trying to get by on reputation" he should probably have Howard on the bench.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13253 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:28 pm to
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Can someone explain to me how this sabbatical is different from Donovan's? I guess the timing in that Donovan did his during qualifiers.

Donovan left with an open timeline and fell completely off the grid during his sabbatical, even extending it so that he would miss the first round Hex games against Mexico and Costa Rica. His problem was that he didn't communicate at all about his progress and basically made us all wonder if he was going to retire from the game completely.

Howard, on the other hand, communicated his desire for the sabbatical well before he actually took it, and set a timeline for Klinsmann to count on. I absolutely expect him to have to compete with Guzan for the starting spot, but he definitely handled his sabbatical much better than Donovan did.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:30 pm to
I don't think its stupid, but its not a big deal either. He was a great keeper for us and wants a few more chances to compete for his country. I don't see the problem or the comparison to Donovan
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
Manchester United Fan
Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:46 pm to
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I absolutely expect him to have to compete with Guzan for the starting spot,


I think when you elect to take time off, you should do it fully knowing that your spot won't be yours when you return. And that you'll have to earn it back. As such, it may be tough for Timmy to get his spot back depending on how things play out.

Posted by ElJefe686
Houston
Member since Nov 2012
793 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:55 pm to
Can someone explain to me how this sabbatical is different from Donovan's? I guess the timing in that Donovan did his during qualifiers.

Let's not leave out the aspect that Donovan isn't the most charismatic guy in the world. He's been seen as whiny, a wuss, and passive at times. He's a mercurial guy - he can score a hat trick against someone and pop up with some of the biggest goals in US history. He could also completely disappear in games...or from the US national team when we needed him. He proved to Jurgen that he couldn't rely on him, and Jurgen served that dish cold.

Basically, I think Tim Howard handled his "sabbatical" better and is generally more well liked by his teammates and fans than Landycakes was.

Also, Howard had one of the best beards on the biggest world stage. Landy probably would struggle for a trash 'stache. We all know that facial hair is the true measure of a man.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12462 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Landy probably would struggle for a trash 'stache


I agree with a lot of what you said, but Landon can at least grow a beard. Have to give him his due there.

Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13128 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I agree with a lot of what you said, but Landon can at least grow a beard. Have to give him his due there.

neck beard...
Posted by Wait For It...
Member since Jun 2012
3502 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:06 pm to
I thought LD left soccer completely during his.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:11 pm to
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neck beard...


Yea that is nasty. Clean yourself up young Landy...
Posted by ElJefe686
Houston
Member since Nov 2012
793 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
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I agree with a lot of what you said, but Landon can at least grow a beard. Have to give him his due there.


Fair enough. I will concede that point - but it still doesn't compare to Timmy's. It is throat-ish, though.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79117 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:16 pm to
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Stupid on his part.

I wonder if Klinsy treats him like he treated Donovan after his hiatus...

It's Brad's team anyway.

Gonna ruin his legacy with this stupid move.


Except that Howard had a horrendous season with Everton and may have benefitted from the break.

He's already got a MNT legacy, he's trying not to flame out of the BPL at the moment.
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