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People are overstating the magnitude of this upset
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:54 pm
England is a shite squad full of choke artists and Iceland has been one of the most impressive teams so far in the tournament.
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:56 pm to hendersonshands
No doubt. It's not like this is a surprise. England always look like shite against low-block teams. They had a lot of trouble breaking down Wales where they were gifted one goal off an errant header. They aren't an elite team, and are closer to Iceland's level than they are to, say, Italy's level.
Regardless, I do love drinking their tears.
Regardless, I do love drinking their tears.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:57 pm to hendersonshands
Kompany just said it's like the movie 300. 
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:58 pm to tigerpimpbot
I was thinking the same thing while listening to Darke and McManaman. The English love to be over-dramatic about themselves.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:59 pm to hendersonshands
England are so bad that Wilshere, who started once for Arsenal all year, made the squad and was one of their better players in the second half.
fricking Walcott almost made the roster. Their best attacker is Marcus Rashford.
England sucks.
fricking Walcott almost made the roster. Their best attacker is Marcus Rashford.
England sucks.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:59 pm to crazy4lsu
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They aren't an elite team,
This is the hardest pill for people to swallow. England is a mediocre team. Mediocre teams lose all the time. Iceland beat Netherlands twice in qualifying. They're a good team. You don't need to have 11 stars to be a good team.
This is also what pisses me off so much about people saying we never had a shot to beat Argentina.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:59 pm to hendersonshands
You say that like its a bad thing.
Nothing quite like an England melt.
Nothing quite like an England melt.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:59 pm to hendersonshands
Yea this is no Miracle on Ice or 1950 USA-England. England is a shite team full of overrated Spurs players.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:00 pm to hendersonshands
yeah, kompany saying it's bigger than leicester is funny. anything can happen in a one-off game, but the improbable over an entire season is remarkable.q
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:02 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Leicester is by far the biggest shocker that I can think of in sports. This game comes nowhere close to it. I would have been surprised if England won soundly, and that's what people were making it seem like was supposed to happen
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:04 pm to hendersonshands
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You don't need to have 11 stars to be a good team.
This is also what pisses me off so much about people saying we never had a shot to beat Argentina.
Well we have a lot to learn about organization, tactical discipline, and commitment. Iceland is probably a better team than the US is, just by virtue of the fact they are superb at positioning and make no bones about how they play.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:05 pm to hendersonshands
It's not that big of an upset at all.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:05 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Y'all are playing it down too much.
By some metrics, it's an absolutely enormous upset.
This wasn't a group stage game or qualifying match.
By some metrics, it's an absolutely enormous upset.
This wasn't a group stage game or qualifying match.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:06 pm to hendersonshands
agreed.
i honestly don't even think england played that poor of a game. iceland is just a really solid club that made more plays tbh.
now, hodgson and his game plan/lineup was ridiculous, but i didn't think the players played that much differently than their usual average.
i honestly don't even think england played that poor of a game. iceland is just a really solid club that made more plays tbh.
now, hodgson and his game plan/lineup was ridiculous, but i didn't think the players played that much differently than their usual average.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:06 pm to crazy4lsu
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Iceland is probably a better team than the US is, just by virtue of the fact they are superb at positioning and make no bones about how they play.
They're definitely better than we are.
Nobody wants to acknowledge that it's Jürgen Klinsmann's fault. How long does a guy have to manage a team before it has an identity? The excuses are that we don't have a deep talent pool and that's bullshite and teams like Iceland prove it.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:07 pm to uway
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This wasn't a group stage game or qualifying match.
England has lost four straight knockout stage matches. This isn't new territory.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:07 pm to hendersonshands
They also compared it to Cameroon and Senegal in the World Cup. It's not near the same thing. Cameroon beat other African teams to make it, then they got lucky in one game. Iceland beat a bunch of other European teams then made the knockout stages as a second place team. This win was way more likely.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:10 pm to hendersonshands
Yeah I don't understand it. Iceland were good defensively but they've definitely played a lot better going forward, especially in qualifying. They were pretty far from their 100%
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:12 pm to hendersonshands
And Iceland basically does what we use to do so well. I honestly miss BobBall.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:15 pm to crazy4lsu
I don't think we appreciated Bob enough when we had him. He's not the best manager in the world but he's very smart tactically and he gave us a fighting chance against the best teams.
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