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Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:48 am to
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:48 am to
He's def got good qualities and I think he'll be good for us... but thats just one game.. doing it week in and out in the prem is a grind that I don't know if he's up for..

He's scored 4 goals for Lille and 2 were PKs... Granted, Lille is a shitty team..

Anyway, it sounds like I'm ragging him and thats not my intent... just playing devils advocate
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6181 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I know Im probably in the minority here
I agree with you, but I really don't see us shelling out much money in January on a striker, Borini probably won't play any if he's still here, and with our injury woes at that position, I guess it wouldn't hurt for him to get a little time to get acclimated here and play some games here and there
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:27 pm to
Apparently BR simply does not rate Borini. I thought the 90' sub for Gerrard on Wed was just silly.
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6181 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:36 pm to
James Pearce of the Echo had a Q&A earlier. I just copied this summary from someone on reddit so credit to him

quote:

I have summarised the main points of the webchat:

The effect of our early CL exit on potential earnings:

Not getting through our CL group cost us £3m in prize money from UEFA (excluding the extra money which more games in the competition would have brought in).

Getting through the last 16 into the quarters would have brought in another £4m.

LFC will have made around £23m from being back in the CL, they would have hoped that figure to have been considerably over £30m.
Whether we will stick with the 3421 formation against Arsenal:
If Rodgers is bold on Sunday and goes for it he'll stick with 3-4-2-1. But I'm sure in the back of his mind he will be wary of making the game too open when Arsenal have such quality going forward.


On Sakho's immediate future and whether he'll play more regularly:

With Lovren's groin problem, it's likely that Sakho will get a rare start against Arsenal. Then it's up to him to show he deserves to hold down a place.


On reports of Liverpool looking at goalkeepers to sign and January transfers in general:

Liverpool are certainly in the market for a new keeper. Rodgers wanted greater cover for Mignolet last summer but missed out on Vorm and McCarthy.

I'm told there is no truth in speculation that LFC will sign Ochoa. The club were offered him for nothing last summer and declined so it would be odd if six months on they decided to pay £3m for him.

*Ideally, Rodgers would like a keeper and a striker in January. But it all depends on cost/availability. Selling Borini would boost the kitty.


On rumours of the reviewing of our transfer strategy:

Not that I know of. FSG have always been into buying young talent with potential and trusting the manager to help take that player to the next level.

I can't see Liverpool suddenly deciding to splash out £50m/£60m on an established star name.


On our loan players and their futures at Liverpool:

I don't think we'll ever see Aspas back at Anfield

It's highly unlikely Alberto will force his way back into the plans

The big one for me is Jordon Ibe. I've always been massively impressed by him. He has all the tools to be a huge star. I honestly think he could be as good as Sterling or even better. I'm sure this season will do him the world of good and I'm excited about seeing his development when he returns to Anfield in 2015.


On whether Lovren is the answer to our defensive problems:

When Lovren signed I thought it was great business. He had a fine season for Southampton and looked to be exactly what Liverpool needed. But 6 months on he's been a big disappointment.

He looks like a bag of nerves and his positional play is all over the shop. He was supposed to the leader and organiser at the back but he's been rash and spread panic.

What I'd say is that he's clearly a lot better than he has shown us so far this season. I wouldn't write him off yet and with the club having paid £20m for him he will certainly get more opportunities to put the torrid start to his Anfield career behind him.

In terms of the best back four? If everyone was fit and available at the moment I'd have: Flanagan, Skrtel, Toure, Moreno


On why Rodgers can't organise a solid defence:

It's a long-running issue and the frustration is that it's the basics which Liverpool have failed to do defensively so often this season.

I asked Rodgers about the possibility of appointing a defensive coach recently but he dismissed the idea. He said he had all the staff he needed already on board to put things right.

When you're an attacking side, you are always going to be more vulnerable at the other end but the vast majority of goals conceded so far this season have been down to sloppy, individual errors.


On potential transfer funds in January:

There is money to spend but not a great deal. The idea was always to do vast majority of business last summer. Selling Borini should boost the pot.


On the returns of Suso and Flanagan:

Flanno due back in mid Jan

Suso still recovering from groin op


On whether Liverpool could've/should've done more when attempting to sign Alexis Sanchez:

I think they should have done more to get him. ie. put pressure on Barca and/or offer Sanchez more £££


And finally, the answer we'd all been waiting for, James' favourite McDonald's branch:

The 24-hour one on the outskirts of Sofia. I had to hurdle two fences and cross a dual carriageway just to get there from my hotel. I then had to walk through the drivethru to order and a lot of pointing and gesturing followed before the lovely Bulgarian lady realised I was after a large Big Mac deal with a side order of nuggets (it had been a long night).
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:56 pm to
Thanks for that Zaba. Couple of things I saw in there...

1). If we don't go right back to that 3-4-2-1 that we have seen increased chances and success from, then all I can figure is that Rogers is in an identity crisis. He swears up and down the Reds are an attacking side, and doesn't want to assign a defensive coach, but that is utter bullshite if we revert after finally scoring some much needed goals.

2). I really hope Sakho locks down a defensive spot. When he goes out there, he is verbal and puts people where they n5eed to be. He is passionate and effective. It is exactly the style that the side needs to boost defensive success.

3). Unfortunately, I think Alberto Moreno may have been a big miss. Sucks, because I really like the guy. Lovren is finally showing progress a bit. Slow, but sure. I like Manquillo too, but Lovren is the guy to stick with IMO. Flanagan back so soon should help lock down the back end a bit too.

4). Yeah, everyone knows they screwed the pooch with Sanchez. With our current defensive/injury problems, not sure how much of a difference we would see in our level of success thus far. I will admit, a Sterling/Balotelli/Sanchez front would definitely be interesting to watch, but it wouldn't have mattered since Rodgers has played defensive formations with a self-proclaimed attacking side for half a season.



ETA: 5). frick McDonald's.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Tigerstark
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Member since Aug 2011
5978 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:52 pm to
If we lose tomorrow, we'll be 10 points out of fourth and with plenty of teams between us and there.

Origi in January - likely nothing to be counted on. Do it for depth, do it for something better than Borini, but I don't think he's much better than Borini at this moment. We bought him because in three years, he could be a top talent.

He will not be some sort of savior.

3-4-1-2 seems to be the way to go. Though the fact that it means we'll have 3 CBs on the field scares me.

Hopefuly Sakho gets some more minutes and we can see what he's capable of.

Looking forward to seeing Flano back out there. He played some decent defense and also had some good passes last year.



Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116132 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

3-4-1-2


We have destroyed every team that played three in the back. We did lose to ManU, but they changed formations when Shaw got hurt. Still 9 shots on target to 1. Worse than what happened to y'all. De Gea won both matches.

ETA: Hope we see an entertaining match with no injuries.

This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 8:58 pm
Posted by rtiger
NWLA
Member since Oct 2005
389 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:11 pm to
I'm sure it's my fault that LFC has tanked I started being a fan of club soccer around 05 and always liked Gerrard and that is the year we won the Champions League against AC Milan. So I've been a fan for a bit but if we sign Ochoa for the keeper I will quit being a fan. No way I can support the Reds if that guy is the keeper as a staunch US team supporter. Maybe it works out for them if I quit being a fan and they turn it around though. YNWA
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6181 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:34 am to
quote:

3-4-1-2
I really don't see anything else for us at this point.

The Good

If Rodgers wants, he can put out a very mobile, high energy side that will cover a lot of ground, make runs in attack, and work hard to get back and defend

The Bad

We'll probably see Gerrard and Lucas as the two CM's which will completely implode the formation leaving us vulnerable in the middle of the field/in front of the 3 and basically make the formation worthless
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22280 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:35 am to
I see the are playing Welbeck and Giroud together? If they are both up top, thats where 3 at the back is most effective...

I like Markovic playing, but not as a LWB agains Arsenal... would much rather see Moreno there..

Looks like both teams are playing pretty attack oriented teams, so it may be pretty wide open..
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 9:58 am
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:47 am to
My body is ready???

Color me nervous, but excited.

I REALLY wanna see us have some success and keep most of the possession today. Play keep away from Sanchez. Definitely want to see some good shots on our side.

ETA: Pretty good start. Arsenal look uncomfortable. Fantastic pass by Gerrard but Lallana messed up the first touch.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:46 am to


Great goal by Coutinho!

ETA: SON OF A BITCH! On cue... Skrtel loses his man who heads it in. Level at half. Damn it to HELL!!
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:47 am to
Brad Jones
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22280 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:49 am to
I knew that was coming at the end... fricking Skrtel!

I was pleased with our play and we've definitely been the much better team... Happy for Coutinho, he's played well today... Still looking for that difference maker in the final third..
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:49 am to
Not too upset. With Jones in goal it is pretty much guaranteed that Arsenal would get at least one passed him. Liverpool is going to need probably 2 more goals to have a chance at winning this match. And with the way we're playing, it is certainly possible.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:50 am
Posted by bubbafratson4
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2012
194 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:52 am to
Classic Liverpool. Play a great first half and then give up a stupid set piece goal. Just classic
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22280 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:57 am to
Also, in just 45 mins, Sakho has reaffirmed my belief that Lovren should never start ahead of him... He may make a clumsy error from time to time, but I think he is much better all in all..
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Also, in just 45 mins, Sakho has reaffirmed my belief that Lovren should never start ahead of him... He may make a clumsy error from time to time, but I think he is much better all in all..


Absolutely.
Posted by bubbafratson4
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2012
194 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:00 am to
Oh god yeah. Guy is great
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:23 am to
Kolo Toure. Nice defending bud.
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