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re: OFFICIAL LFC 16/17 Season Long Thread - Piss off, Gunners!!
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:20 am to beatbammer
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:20 am to beatbammer
I'd like him as well... I really question if he is worth the money given his credentials on the pitch (though I think he could be).. and if we could only have 1, I'd much rather spend the 70 on VVD, given it's a bigger need IMO..
However, I definitely think its a statement signing and would be really happy to get him
However, I definitely think its a statement signing and would be really happy to get him
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:40 am to beatbammer
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but for some reason I can't make myself care about "overspending" for a kid like this. I think he would be deadly under Klopp.
I mean, this is just where the market is going. City may be spending 45m or so on a good, but flawed LB.
Naby looks to be verging on WC in a couple of years. And I don't doubt that Klopp can get him there.
I'm normally one who hates it when people say "its not your money, why do you care" because Liverpool have clearly had a set amount of resources to use in the past. So when you overspend on one player, you create an imbalance where you don't have the resources for another player/need. But this window appears to be a different animal for FSG, and I believe they have the resources and will to go a little deeper into the pocket to help solidify CL and top 4. Coupled with breaking even in transfers over the last few years, and I have to think this is the year we go for it.
I won't pretend I'm a scout that knows everything (or really anything) - but he looks outstanding with the potential to grow into very special. And the things I'm reading about the underlying stats (such as his passes which by-pass defenders) have me very excited.
And the final thought - if you're going to buy a player who improves your starting XI at this point, you had better be prepared to spend big unless its the last year of his contract. I would rather us get used to getting one big 50m player each year (in the future once we have built the squad) to keep us going than to keep thinking we need a 15-20m markovic each year and hope he pans out immediately.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:47 am to TFTC
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I really question if he is worth the money given his credentials on the pitch
I agree, but in Klopp I trust, and if he rates him this highly then FSG need to make it happen.
Hopefully, between this and the Salah signing our intent will have been made clear to other top class players. If Shampton continue to hold VVD hostage, then we should be able to attract other CBs to get on board with what Klopp is doing.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:17 am to SetTheMood
And just because we spend 70M here doesn't mean we won't spend 70M on VVD if necessary...
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:42 am to Tigerfan7218
I agree on all points... just discussion fodder...
The fact that a player that has really had one good season in a top league, is going for that sort of money is mind boggling... I know there are many factors driving up the cost.. still..
The fact that a player that has really had one good season in a top league, is going for that sort of money is mind boggling... I know there are many factors driving up the cost.. still..
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:22 am to Tigerstark
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deeper into the pocket to help solidify CL and top 4. Coupled with breaking even in transfers over the last few years
This, along with the Main Stand up and running. If you are not willing to spend then you are not getting a player that will impact this Starting XI. I would rather spend on Salah, Keita and VVD then 10 Morenos or Markovics. To not be out done, the fact that we can hold on to our best players have also added to the optimism. I am more than a little concerned about our LB situation though.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:44 am to JackVincennes
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I am more than a little concerned about our LB situation though.
I think we'll get one, but need two...
I assume we will get a young LB, that will compete with Milner for the starting spot... my preference is to never see him play there again other than emergency.. but I think we'll see him there again this season.. to what degree, depends on who we sign..
Honestly, if we got two LBS... IMO, Milner would be surplus to requirements... even though he's a good guy, versatile, etc.. Though I really don't have an issue keeping him on..
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:10 am to TFTC
Off topic, should Coutinho be captain? Is there precedence for a Captain losing the armband for excessive injuries? We clearly wouldn't know being Liverpool fans...
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:25 am to SetTheMood
I don't have a problem with Hendo being Captain, but if he were to lose it... IMO, Can seems like the natural choice (as long as he signs a new contract before the season starts)..
I'm sure there are many behind the scenes things we aren't privy to that goes into it... before last season, from what I saw on the field, I'd have said Sakho was a good captain choice... I would have been wrong
I'm sure there are many behind the scenes things we aren't privy to that goes into it... before last season, from what I saw on the field, I'd have said Sakho was a good captain choice... I would have been wrong
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:38 pm to TFTC
TIFWIW, but being reported out of Germany that we've reached personal terms with Keita and are now just hashing it out with Leipzig.
I don't wanna say it's happening...but it's happening.
I don't wanna say it's happening...but it's happening.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:04 pm to TFTC
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I don't have a problem with Hendo being Captain, but if he were to lose it... IMO, Can seems like the natural choice (as long as he signs a new contract before the season starts)..
I'm sure there are many behind the scenes things we aren't privy to that goes into it... before last season, from what I saw on the field, I'd have said Sakho was a good captain choice... I would have been wrong
Lots of players on the squad that I'd have no problem with being captains... Hendo, Phil, Milly, Lallana, Can, Lallana, Georgie.
I have no problems with guys like Mane and Matip, they just seem a little too quiet and laid back for the role.
And, as much as I like Bobby, I just don't see that being a fit for his style and personality.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:38 pm to beatbammer
If we get Salah, Keita, VVD (Or a REAL LCB) and a decent LB I will lose it.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 9:55 am to JackVincennes
https://www.espnfc.us/club/liverpool/364/blog/post/3151162/liverpools-top-priority-should-be-naby-keita-no-matter-the-cost
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Keita looks to be a rare talent, as he plays like a hybrid of N'Golo Kante and Sadio Mane. Keita is quick, can defend, can run all day, can win the ball, can dribble, can shoot, can score goals, can create goals, can use both feet and he's only 22 years old. Paying £70m is a lot of money, but such has been the incredible rate of inflation in football transfers since the most recent TV deal; in a year or two it will be seen as fairly standard.
Everton are paying £30m for Jordan Pickford, a young, relatively unproven goalkeeper from a team that finished bottom of the Premier League last year. Elsewhere, Bournemouth have just spent £20m on Nathan Ake. Nathan. Ake. Just let that sink in for a second.
By comparison, £70m for an explosive talent like Keita doesn't seem so extortionate, particularly in light of what Paul Pogba cost Manchester United a year ago.
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If Keita is the man Klopp wants to be his midfield driving force for the foreseeable future, and providing it is within the club's budget, then no price is too high. Of course, ideally Liverpool would like to stretch that budget to bring in at least half-a-dozen players this summer (and that's before you even start thinking about replacing those who will inevitably leave), but it's far more important to add quality over quantity.
If by doing that they only sign three players this summer rather than the six or seven they probably require, that's fine. Three outstanding players will benefit them far more than six good ones will. Mohamed Salah has arrived already, and if he were to be joined by Keita and, let's say, van Dijk (stranger things have happened), Liverpool will have had a great window even if they didn't add another player.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 11:59 am to beatbammer
My stance precisely. Sign him no matter the cost. He's a game changer
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:14 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
It is time to spend on players who are going to break into the XI. Period.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 2:21 pm to JackVincennes
I just watched a few of his highlight videos. This kid is the Roy Hobbs of soccer. He can do it all. A strikers composure in front of goal, Toni Kroos esque through balls, and Vidal in defense. He just dictates the game. Would be the best center mid in the premier league and I firmly believe that
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:05 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Yeah I saw it and incredibly I don't think you are exaggerating that much.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:13 am to JackVincennes
Looks like Oxlade-Chamberlain may be happening. He's apparently turned down the latest offer from Arsenal.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 7:18 am
Posted on 7/2/17 at 9:09 am to pvilleguru
I'll be glad to get him. I've liked his style and versatility watching him with Arsenal.
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