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re: Let's talk JK and Bob Bradley
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:16 pm to kilo
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:16 pm to kilo
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Man, there is a lot of over reaction to this loss around here.
This isn't an overreaction. People are finally seeing things as they are and have been.
I've been consistent in my beliefs on Jurgy:
1. A national team manager shouldn't get more than one cycle
2. A manager should be consistent. Jurgy has not been (:cough: Ibarra :cough:)
3. A manager should not attack the national league. Jurgy has on multiple occasions.
4. Jurgy has not accomplished what he stated were his goals: (a) to play an exciting, attacking style (b) to help our fitness (c) to make us noticeably better
In sum, sack Jurgy
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:30 pm to TN Bhoy
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This isn't an overreaction.
Yes, yes it is.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:32 pm to kilo
Instead of just saying it, how about you explain why you believe this is a overreaction.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:37 pm to TN Bhoy
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1. A national team manager shouldn't get more than one cycle
I don't agree with that at all.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:56 pm to pvilleguru
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I don't agree with that at all.
People that hated Jurgen before the loss to Jamaica are just fanning flames around here right now.
I suspect this cycle will be a lot like last. Lots of tinkering to see/test tactics and to evaluate players. When it comes down to really putting the gas pedal down during the Hex things will play out very similarly.
People are going to gnash their teeth over the Gold Cup? The team couldnt finish in the 2nd half. Had they done so this thread wouldnt even exist. But yeah, Sack Jurgy and dont put any blame on the execution in the final third by the players.
Just crazy.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:58 pm to kilo
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test tactics
So what are those tactics?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:05 pm to Broski
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So what are those tactics?
So you think I dont know what Im talking about? Is that what this is about? Hilarious. Talk about a self inflated sense of worth and narcissism on your part.
What do you want me to explain? The obvious different formations that were tried and used? I mean, its obvious right? Do I really need to list them all?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:06 pm to kilo
Different formations aren't tactics
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:11 pm to Broski
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Different formations aren't tactics
Im not interested in arguing your straw man.
Formations are not tactics in whole but they are a focal point and main part OF them. They dictate how you play and what your side selection will be.
Jurgen has tried a bunch of things. Playing narrow in a diamond. Playing with a false 9. He even tried playing with 3 backs. He has tried playing direct and tried playing up through the mids with Bradley bouncing around depending.
Like I said, Im not sure why I have to qualify myself and my opinion and you dont call on other to do so, maybe its becasue I think you Jurgen haters are overreacting and that made you mad.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:12 pm to kilo
Ok, I'll play... How were our tactics different in the diamond as opposed to the 4-2-3-1?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:24 pm to Broski
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Ok, I'll play... How were our tactics different in the diamond as opposed to the 4-2-3-1?
The 4-4-2 diamond would be more of a possession oriented formation more reliant on slow build up and hold up play up top. The 4-2-3-1 is more of a fluid counter formation that less reliant on build up play that pushed the play wider through the mids through the wingers.
Can we stop playing this silly game now? Its kind of pathetic man.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:25 pm to Broski
The tactics never changed...
Our outside backs overlapped because we were getting absolutely no width (or possession) from our outside mids... Even though he was listed as the 10 in the diamond, MB was still dropping well into the defending third to receive the ball and start the attack...
If that option wasn't available... Then we reverted to Bob Ball with our backline bombing towards the other end, which is a stupid tactic to begin with but downright insane when you send your one real target forward home (due to injury).
Our outside backs overlapped because we were getting absolutely no width (or possession) from our outside mids... Even though he was listed as the 10 in the diamond, MB was still dropping well into the defending third to receive the ball and start the attack...
If that option wasn't available... Then we reverted to Bob Ball with our backline bombing towards the other end, which is a stupid tactic to begin with but downright insane when you send your one real target forward home (due to injury).
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:26 pm to kilo
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The 4-4-2 diamond would be more of a possession oriented formation more reliant on slow build up and hold up play up top. The 4-2-3-1 is more of a fluid counter formation that less reliant on build up play that pushed the play wider through the mids through the wingers.
Congrats on the google, but you didn't actually answer his question.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:26 pm to kilo
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The 4-4-2 diamond would be more of a possession oriented formation more reliant on slow build up and hold up play up top. The 4-2-3-1 is more of a fluid counter formation that less reliant on build up play that pushed the play wider through the mids through the wingers.
Congrats on copy and pasting from Wikipedia... But that's not what we were doing.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:27 pm to TN Bhoy
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Congrats on the google, but you didn't actually answer his question.
Oh lord.
So its ad hominem time because I think you all are overreacting.
What a fricking clown show this forum can be at times.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:28 pm to kilo
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So its ad hominem time because I think you all are overreacting.
I don't think you know what the bolded means.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:29 pm to Broski
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Congrats on copy and pasting from Wikipedia... But that's not what we were doing.
frick you man. Show me anywhere on the internet where I copy pasted that. I guess if i have to qualify my statements then so do you. Show me where I "copy pasted " that form a-hole. Ill wait.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:31 pm to kilo
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Kilo
How about you quit being mad and bring up a counter point to my post where I explained that our tactics never changed despite the "different" formations.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:32 pm to TN Bhoy
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I don't think you know what the bolded means.
Really? You both are not accusing me of coping shite from wikipedia in an attempt to discredit the person instead of the original opinion about the overreaction and the follow on reasoning I gave?
Sack Jurgy!
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:34 pm to kilo
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Really? You both are not accusing me of coping shite from wikipedia in an attempt to discredit the person instead of the original opinion about the overreaction and the follow on reasoning I gave?
Nope. I just said that you didn't answer his question and gave an extremely basic explanation that showed no real understanding.
You're the only one going the ad hominem route.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:35 pm
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