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Don't write off a 22 year old because of a mediocre half season
Posted on 7/27/17 at 4:01 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 4:01 am
Jordan Morris still has a future with the USMNT. Several posters on this board, before this tournament, said that Morris would never contribute to the national team in a meaningful way. The same kind of statements were said here about Bobby Wood less than three years ago. Young players develop at different times in their careers and at different rates, and I think Morris has a lot of potential to be a major player for us, both now and in the future. Hoping his development continues and he makes the jump sooner rather than later to Europe, because I think he's capable. I don't see him unseating Wood right now for the #2 striker spot (assuming we keep Clint as a super sub), but I love what he offers off the bench (in terms of energy, running at players, putting shots on goal, etc.). In any case, we as fans should be rooting for his success. If he keeps playing like this, then I fully expect (and believe he deserves) a seat on the plane to Russia. Respect the Stanford Messi.
To summarize this tournament with a quote from the in game thread:
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To summarize this tournament with a quote from the in game thread:
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Morris just gave this board the middle finger
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 6:22 am to cwil177
Woah. Let's slow down and remember the level of competition we were playing. I still don't think he played really well during the tournament.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:55 am to pvilleguru
Well, if we are going to go there, I think he stood out in a tournament where few others did, but we can agree to disagree. Point stands, however, that it's silly to say he has zero future with the national team, relatively early in his career, when he's already shown potential to contribute to the USMNT as a 22 year old.
ETA: Morris was named to the tournament best 11.
ETA: Morris was named to the tournament best 11.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 7:59 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:22 am to cwil177
Can't currently see a future in the Starting XI barring injuries. No left foot and he is sub-par playing back to help on defense. His poor marking cost us a goal last night. He's a decent MLS player (should've stuck with Bundesliga) but not a threat at the International level until he develops his game more.
He does have pace and he's 22 years old, so it's possible he can keep improving. As it currently stands, he's a lesser version of Bobby Wood (as you alluded to).
ETA: He has a chance to make Russia 2018 but I don't know if he sees the pitch barring an injury.
The US is currently missing another "target" forward in the player pool like Jozy. We have a lot of smaller strikers like Morris, Wood, and Dwyer.
He does have pace and he's 22 years old, so it's possible he can keep improving. As it currently stands, he's a lesser version of Bobby Wood (as you alluded to).
ETA: He has a chance to make Russia 2018 but I don't know if he sees the pitch barring an injury.
The US is currently missing another "target" forward in the player pool like Jozy. We have a lot of smaller strikers like Morris, Wood, and Dwyer.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 8:27 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:41 am to Billy Mays
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The US is currently missing another "target" forward in the player pool like Jozy. We have a lot of smaller strikers like Morris, Wood, and Dwyer
I'm hoping Vazquez can keep improving. He's 6'3" and only 18. Looking good in his appearances for Atlanta.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 8:43 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:42 am to cwil177
Nah. He will never be more than a backup when the A team is playing meaningful games.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:46 am to Billy Mays
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smaller strikers like Morris
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smaller
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Morris
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:49 am to pvilleguru
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Woah. Let's slow down and remember the level of competition we were playing. I still don't think he played really well during the tournament.
Dude... you were ready to hand Dwyer a spot over Dempsey after 15 minutes against Ghana and now you're telling people to slow down after Morris was consistently one of our better player's this tournament?
I get it, Morris doesn't do it for you, was the case for me last year as well, but it'd be ignorant to say that he hasn't improved at the international level and is most definitely in the running for a spot behind Jozy/Wood.
ETA: USMNT Goals Leaders 2017
1. Dempsey - 5 goals (7 matches)
2. Pulisic - 4 goals (5 matches)
3. Morris - 4 goals (10 matches)
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:13 pm to pvilleguru
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I'm hoping Vazquez can keep improving. He's 6'3" and only 18. Looking good in his appearances for Atlanta.
Agreed - either he or Hadji Wright may be our next best bet for that role for next cycle.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:13 pm to Broski
I meant shorter but 
good call
good call
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:16 pm to Billy Mays
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but not a threat at the International level until he develops his game more.
I disagree. People are acting like having a fast winger isn't useful. His one-footedness is a problem, but there are plenty of international quality players who are one-footed.
Having an athlete that can stretch play will always be useful. Against international teams which are less likely to be drilled in the low block, it is even more useful, especially if we employ a counter-attacking style.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:21 pm to cwil177
He's a good player for his level
but he has him limitations and tons of players his age are way more developed.
He will probably be nothing more than a good MLS player. He doesn't have the skill set to be a good player in any major European league. The fact he is so one footed he will get exposed bad in any real step up in competition.
But anyone saying he doesn't have a future in the USMNT is just being silly.
but he has him limitations and tons of players his age are way more developed.
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Hoping his development continues and he makes the jump sooner rather than later to Europe, because I think he's capable
He will probably be nothing more than a good MLS player. He doesn't have the skill set to be a good player in any major European league. The fact he is so one footed he will get exposed bad in any real step up in competition.
But anyone saying he doesn't have a future in the USMNT is just being silly.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:25 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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The fact he is so one footed he will get exposed bad in any real step up in competition.
You say this yet support a team that employed Park Ji-Sung for 7 seasons.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:28 pm to Broski
Who is way more technical and a better player than Morris
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:30 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Who is way more technical and a better player than Morris
At 22 years old, they were literally the same player... Tireless worker, relied on one foot but technically more gifted that given credit for. Only real difference is that one has slanted eyes and the other is a chubster.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:31 pm to Broski
You are trying way toooooooo hard
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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he fact he is so one footed he will get exposed bad in any real step up in competition.
I mean, I don't think it will. Being one footed would be a problem if he didn't have anything else to offer. His speed always has to be contended with.
Morris can be used and employed to great effect in a counter-attacking system. He doesn't need a great left foot to do that.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You are trying way toooooooo hard
Not really, Morris could very easily be at Bremen right now, except he pulled a Landy and played the homesick card. Mentally, he may not be ready for Europe, but technically, he can manage.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:37 pm to Broski
I wish he would have made the move to Germany
But he probably would have been throw in the youth teams
But he probably would have been throw in the youth teams
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:43 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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But he probably would have been throw in the youth teams
It's possible, but considering he was already "old" in terms of prospects standards then, they definitely saw something in him to still offer him a contract.
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