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re: Columbus Crew possibly moving to Austin, TX if a stadium deal can't be reached
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:19 pm to GoldenGuy
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:19 pm to GoldenGuy
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They're zombies. San Jose moved to Houston years ago.
< Thinks relocation in sports is stupid
< Thinks relocation in MLS is doubly stupid, because it kills the growth of the league outside of the US
< Thinks relocation in this particular instance is incredibly stupid, because it (a) gives a city that wasn't trying to get a club in the expansion process a club, (b) shits on a nearby city that was trying to get a club in the expansion process, (c) destroys one of the original MLS clubs, and (d) gives a club to a city that has shown no interest in supporting soccer.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 9:20 pm
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:24 pm to TN Bhoy
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Spurs not ready to concede MLS team to Austin
Pretty interesting choice there if looking at market size. San Antonio city and metro is larger, but the 20 year projections have Austin metro overcoming it.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:11 pm to TN Bhoy
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Thinks relocation in sports is stupid
I understand, but its what we have
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< Thinks relocation in MLS is doubly stupid, because it kills the growth of the league outside of the US
??????
A Columbus team maybe accounts for 0.1% of the MLS interest outside of North America... That is driven by players, not teams unless we allow the Galaxy or whoever to be a "superteam"
One day there may not be expansion in MLS... I think we will develop an MLS2 eventually but what's the best way to ensure success? Get into MLS ASAP
An Austin team in no way precludes a SA team.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:20 pm to TN Bhoy
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< Thinks relocation in this particular instance is incredibly stupid, because it (a) gives a city that wasn't trying to get a club in the expansion process a club
Maybe because they thought they could get Columbus.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:25 pm to chalmetteowl
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A Columbus team maybe accounts for 0.1% of the MLS interest outside of North America... That is driven by players, not teams unless we allow the Galaxy or whoever to be a "superteam
You totally missed his point
For MLS to be an elite league it will need international eyes watching with big tv deals from overseas.
Moves like this piss people off and make them not interested in the league in markets abroad we will eventually need.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Moves like this piss people off and make them not interested in the league in markets abroad we will eventually need.
What "international eyes" would be pissed and why? I'm local and don't watch the MLS. This move would likely not change that.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:57 pm to SUB
Pretty much most people other countries who we will need tv deals.
Soccer fans abroad hate the idea of teams moving
Soccer fans abroad hate the idea of teams moving
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:06 am to StraightCashHomey21
The whole franchising thing will always make the MLS an albatross worldwide.
Should give the crew owner the option to fold and reconstitute in another market.
Our top flight league is a joke right now.
MLS killed the USMNT bid for the 2018 WC.
Should give the crew owner the option to fold and reconstitute in another market.
Our top flight league is a joke right now.
MLS killed the USMNT bid for the 2018 WC.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:24 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:maybe, but a Columbus to Austin move won't register to anyone outside of those two places...
Soccer fans abroad hate the idea of teams moving
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:47 am to chalmetteowl
You are still missing the point
It’s the perception the league gives off
It’s the perception the league gives off
Posted on 10/18/17 at 3:20 am to StraightCashHomey21
Here's something that makes me optimistic for the future expansion of American soccer, in MLS and beyond. Look at the average MLS attendances this year for all 22 teams: MLS 2017 Attendance
What stands out? For me, it's the fact that all 5 teams at the top (and 8 of the top 10) are recent additions to the league in the last 10 years, and that Atlanta leads the pack in their first year of existence. This shows that expansion markets have been viable in MLS more than many leagues. Look at how badly the Chargers and Rams have flopped in LA for the NFL, or the Phoenix Coyotes and Florida Panthers in the NHL, by comparison.
It's actually mostly the original 10 MLS franchises that find themselves at the bottom of the list. Part of that has to do with simply stadium sizes, but I think the older MLS franchises haven't benefitted from the "soccer surge" as much as the expansion teams have. You only get one chance to make a splash as a new team. The bottom 4 teams on the list (and 8 of the bottom 11) all joined the league before 2000 in the pre-Beckham era of MLS.
Whether you care about MLS itself or not, I think we can all take comfort in the fact that these new teams are being so successful. I mean Atlanta has blown expectations out of the water, and Cincinnati has an exciting future. Just think about how many big markets are out there still waiting for a professional team to support. The league needs more great owners like Arthur Blank and less bad ones like Anthony Precourt, Stan Kroenke, and Robert Kraft. Successful expansion is team-specific and market-specific, but Americans like me are hungry to support local professional soccer and coming out in big numbers to support the team. Orlando hasn't made the playoffs in their first three seasons, yet still has the 4th highest attendance in the league.
Whatever ends up happening, I hope the league does whatever it can to keep the Crew franchise alive or bring it back stronger after a brief hiatus. The Columbus franchise definitely has legitimate problems, but that's nothing a good owner and good team can't fix. Toronto and Sporting KC have become two of the league's best franchises, due to competent investment and ownership, after years of being bad.
What stands out? For me, it's the fact that all 5 teams at the top (and 8 of the top 10) are recent additions to the league in the last 10 years, and that Atlanta leads the pack in their first year of existence. This shows that expansion markets have been viable in MLS more than many leagues. Look at how badly the Chargers and Rams have flopped in LA for the NFL, or the Phoenix Coyotes and Florida Panthers in the NHL, by comparison.
It's actually mostly the original 10 MLS franchises that find themselves at the bottom of the list. Part of that has to do with simply stadium sizes, but I think the older MLS franchises haven't benefitted from the "soccer surge" as much as the expansion teams have. You only get one chance to make a splash as a new team. The bottom 4 teams on the list (and 8 of the bottom 11) all joined the league before 2000 in the pre-Beckham era of MLS.
Whether you care about MLS itself or not, I think we can all take comfort in the fact that these new teams are being so successful. I mean Atlanta has blown expectations out of the water, and Cincinnati has an exciting future. Just think about how many big markets are out there still waiting for a professional team to support. The league needs more great owners like Arthur Blank and less bad ones like Anthony Precourt, Stan Kroenke, and Robert Kraft. Successful expansion is team-specific and market-specific, but Americans like me are hungry to support local professional soccer and coming out in big numbers to support the team. Orlando hasn't made the playoffs in their first three seasons, yet still has the 4th highest attendance in the league.
Whatever ends up happening, I hope the league does whatever it can to keep the Crew franchise alive or bring it back stronger after a brief hiatus. The Columbus franchise definitely has legitimate problems, but that's nothing a good owner and good team can't fix. Toronto and Sporting KC have become two of the league's best franchises, due to competent investment and ownership, after years of being bad.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 3:33 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 5:49 am to McCaigBro69
Marketing is a problem for FC Dallas. It's very much still a small time feel. I've got season tickets, and I've dealt with the same guy for a a few years. (I literally just call his mobile for extra last minute tickets).
The atmosphere isn't bad overall there though. And I don't really see the same problem getting to Frisco. Maybe I've just done it enough to be used to it.
Nearly 1 million people live in the north Dallas sububurbs. And it's still growing like crazy. Frisco was the right move in my opinion. Hell, the Cowboys moved there as well.
The atmosphere isn't bad overall there though. And I don't really see the same problem getting to Frisco. Maybe I've just done it enough to be used to it.
Nearly 1 million people live in the north Dallas sububurbs. And it's still growing like crazy. Frisco was the right move in my opinion. Hell, the Cowboys moved there as well.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:02 am to Xenophon
I agree. Not that I live in Dallas, but I have personal experience with the Frisco area.
Attendance isn't great for now, but I think FC Dallas will benefit in the long-term from being in Frisco. The way that area is developing is perfect for supporting a soccer franchise in America, they really just need to market the team better.
I'm a bit skeptical of MLS in Austin, but it has high growth potential with similar demographics to Portland. If done right, it could be a smashing success like other recent expansion teams have been.
Attendance isn't great for now, but I think FC Dallas will benefit in the long-term from being in Frisco. The way that area is developing is perfect for supporting a soccer franchise in America, they really just need to market the team better.
I'm a bit skeptical of MLS in Austin, but it has high growth potential with similar demographics to Portland. If done right, it could be a smashing success like other recent expansion teams have been.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:14 am to Michael Stein
They have to decide where to put the team. People seem to be talking about downtown Austin, and it goes against what the ownership wants in Columbus, but ruling out the north side of town there would be a mistake as well.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:21 am to StraightCashHomey21
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For MLS to be an elite league it will need international eyes watching with big tv deals from overseas.
Getting a big TV deal here is much more important than having another country watching the league.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:22 am to kilo
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MLS killed the USMNT bid for the 2018 WC.
What?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:39 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:is soccer supposed to be THAT different? The NBA had three moves in seven years... But international $$$$$ kept rolling in...
It’s the perception the league gives off
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:45 am to Xenophon
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They have to decide where to put the team. People seem to be talking about downtown Austin
where are you going to put a SSS in downtown Austin??
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:46 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Which is shittty bc it’s a game of clubs
no, it's not. not in this country at least.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 7:47 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:50 am to Michael Stein
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Look at the average MLS attendances this year for all 22 teams: MLS 2017 Attendance
It's important to note that more than of these teams have half empty or worse actual attendance at these games. While there are teams that have great, consistent fan support. Getting people out to the games is a big challenge that people overlook when talk about "growing attendance".
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