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re: Bob Ball to Swansea and Di Matteo sacked by Villa
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:09 pm to BraveTiger225
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:09 pm to BraveTiger225
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He didn't get Egypt to the World Cup
Considering everything that was going on at the time in that country, it was a modern miracle that he was able to field a competitive team that didn't hate each others guts, let alone be playoff vs Ghana away from the World Cup.
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Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Thank god RDM is gone
Didn't like the appointment, made some solid transfers but never addressed CM properly.
Hopefully we can find someone who prefers playing a formation that isn't 4-2-4 in the final 10 minutes with a goal advantage, the man was so inept I think he may have got is relegated.
No issue lining up attacking but learn to see out a game, bringing in Gestede in the 87th minute before the 90th minute equaliser against Barnsley should have been enough, luckily we take nearly 6,000 fans to Preston - the biggest away following in the country - to see us fail again.
AND START MCCORMACK
Didn't like the appointment, made some solid transfers but never addressed CM properly.
Hopefully we can find someone who prefers playing a formation that isn't 4-2-4 in the final 10 minutes with a goal advantage, the man was so inept I think he may have got is relegated.
No issue lining up attacking but learn to see out a game, bringing in Gestede in the 87th minute before the 90th minute equaliser against Barnsley should have been enough, luckily we take nearly 6,000 fans to Preston - the biggest away following in the country - to see us fail again.
AND START MCCORMACK
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:50 pm to engvol
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@AndrewDasNYT
Via @RorySmith: it was Swansea's Welsh chairman, not the new U.S. owners, who was most impressed by his prep.
Interesting.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:29 pm to WarSlamEagle
Yeah I'm calling total bullshite on that
Posted on 10/3/16 at 3:52 pm to LuckyTiger
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This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:59 am
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:21 pm to TheIrishFro
The PBS doc on Bradleys time in egypt is really phenomenal. Dude is a total badass irl, and is just one of those guys whos figured out how to be successful in all the right ways.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:50 pm to cigsmcgee
“Bob Bradley’s probably the best coach I’ve ever played for in terms of organization,” Stuart Holden said. “He just knew how to get the best out of his players.”
Posted on 10/3/16 at 6:30 pm to Broski
Screw all this Bob talk, the GOAT is being rumored to maybe possibly be in the running for the Villa job.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 7:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Bradley told SiriusXM earlier this year.
"We haven't even talked about the [Pep] Guardiolas and the [Carlo] Ancelottis. But I'll tell you what, maybe I'm stupid, but I think I'm a manager in and around that level.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:40 pm to lsugorilla
Really hope he does well. Reading through some forums online, most of the Brits think he's a "shite" manager who only got the job because he's a Yank. I could argue he got passed over for many spots he deserved due to being American.
If he does well, it could open up more jobs in Europe for Americans in the future. If he bombs, he'll set American coaches back several years. If you're impartial to Swansea, we should definitely pull for him to do well. First American coach to ever manage a team in one of Europe's top 4 leagues.
If he does well, it could open up more jobs in Europe for Americans in the future. If he bombs, he'll set American coaches back several years. If you're impartial to Swansea, we should definitely pull for him to do well. First American coach to ever manage a team in one of Europe's top 4 leagues.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:26 pm to Michael Stein
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I could argue he got passed over for many spots he deserved due to being American.
I believe this is true, and it kinda sucks that he probably got this job due to the American ownership and not his own resume.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:09 am to WarSlamEagle
Praying he buys his son.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:55 am to Michael Stein
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Really hope he does well. Reading through some forums online, most of the Brits think he's a "shite" manager who only got the job because he's a Yank. I could argue he got passed over for many spots he deserved due to being American.
How many matches coached by Bob have those Brits watched? I'm going to guess zero.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:43 am to cwil177
What qualifies as a successful season for Bob? Keeping them up? At this point, I'd say so... with some signs of progress that can't be built on the following season..
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:06 am to cwil177
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How many matches coached by Bob have those Brits watched? I'm going to guess zero.
Well, maybe one.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:27 am to WarSlamEagle
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I believe this is true, and it kinda sucks that he probably got this job due to the American ownership and not his own resume.
The Welsh Swansea fans are having a huge issue with it because of exactly this. When you look at his CV his biggest job was with the USMNT 5 years ago. He is currently in Ligue 2. It's not exactly a whole lot to get excited over if you know nothing about him.
Also what's playing into this is the current mood towards the new ownership and the board. They completely screwed up how the takeover was handled. Then you give Guidolin 7 matches this season to sort it out with your record signing forward only being available for one of them. Now the performances were bad, but the last 2 games against Man City and Liverpool were much improved and those performances against teams that weren't the current 2 of the best of the league would have yielded points.
Huw Jenkins also met with Bradley last week prior to the Liverpool game. This pissed a lot of people off because Guidolin was still in the job and deserved the backing of the board. Then he was fired without the board even consulting or telling the supporters trust.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:00 am to etm512
This is like LSU hiring Johnny Jones.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:07 am to S
Yeah but with fewer bung payments
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:10 am to etm512
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The Welsh Swansea fans are having a huge issue with it because of exactly this. When you look at his CV his biggest job was with the USMNT 5 years ago. He is currently in Ligue 2. It's not exactly a whole lot to get excited over if you know nothing about him.
Let's look at things objectively, because it seems most people don't know much about him:
Bradley, like Jurgen, got the U.S. to a round of 16 World Cup game and won a Gold Cup. Yet Jurgen is considered a serious candidate for an EPL job and Bradley is not, by these people?
With Stabæk, Bradley took a small team with no budget in nowhere, Norway, and got them into a European competition.
Their stadium capacity is 7,000. They had just gotten promoted to the first division in Norway when he got hired. They finished 3rd during his second full year in charge, which is their best finish ever. The next season without him they got knocked out of Europe early and as of now are 14th in the 16 team Norwegian top flight.
With Le Havre Bradley was 1 goal away from getting that team promoted to Ligue 1 in his first half season in charge. In that final game the team scored five goals and hit the woodwork 4 times. Le Havre was also wrongly denied a goal earlier in the season so really it should have been them that got promoted anyway, and not Metz.
Swansea wants results fast. With Bob that might be possible, if you consider his work with the above two examples. Not to mention he almost qualified for the World Cup with an Egypt squad that had half of its players not playing during the civil unrest, with the domestic league cancelled for 2 years because of the Port Said disaster. Were Africa's World Cup qualifying format not a so obviously retarded method for choosing Africa's best five teams, Egypt would have qualified for the 2014 World Cup.
I will be honest - I used to really dislike Bob. Looking back on it now, he had his faults but was overall a very solid manager with us and really made the most of the handicapped roster he had to work with. Now I'm convinced that the only way you can say this guy is not qualified for the Swansea job is to not be paying attention to his incredible achievements with most every team he's coached since 2010. Bob makes a massive, positive difference to the teams he coaches in very little time, doing so in situations that are far less than ideal. Looking at all of this, he might actually be the single most qualified option available to a club like Seansea.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:28 am to cwil177
Here are some snippets from a Q&A with a journalist who covers Swansea and the Welsh National team:
A: Some of the attributes stressed to me - and have stood out when trying to research - is his strength of character. Swansea certainly need someone with a firm hand on things and the experience of managing dressing rooms to get more out of players, something Guidolin was failing to do. His time in Egypt is fascinating and his willingness to start lower down and in less high profile jobs in Europe at the expense of the money available in MLS, points to a hunger to prove himself - something that has always worked for Swansea managers, players and the club as a whole when they are at their best.
I have spoken to some who have followed his career more closely and, while the lack of Premier League experience is obviously something to raise an eyebrow at, they all speak in glowing terms of ‘an impressive man’. He will certainly need to make a quick impression at the Liberty.
I’d like to think - and hope - none. Raising the profile is no good in the Championship and Swansea would be asking for trouble if that played any part. Besides, it wouldn’t matter if Swansea had an all-American team, it would not make them any bigger than United, Liverpool and others in the States and I’d be surprised if that was a factor. The manager has been appointed after the impression he made and what he can address and the hope for all has to be that he shows it and vindicates recent decisions.
That is something Bradley’s track record suggests he will address, though it is never an easy thing to get right once pre-season has gone. It does point to those concerns of training ground methods and preparations for games that Swansea haven’t been able to maintain levels over 90 minutes - playing ‘The Swansea Way’ does not come from just tactics but from training.
That is a question only Jenkins can truly answer, although separate sources have told me it was Jenkins who pushed for Bradley as his preferred choice from those talked to and that the final call was a agreed upon by all. Whether Bradley would have been in the frame had it not been for the US connection is another matter (although it is thought there is no personal connection between shareholders and Bradley) but the hope has to be that the judgement that brought in the likes of Rodgers and Martinez has not lost Jenkins.
Brad Friedel’s comments on FiveLive were interesting where he suggested he might want Swansea to be slightly more direct. Not so much long ball but ‘less easy on the eye’ is how he put it. Now whether that is what he has done in the past and what he plans to do in the future is another matter. He is said by those who have followed his career he is very much a student of the game and has played a variety of formations. I think there will be an element of the wish for greater fitness (I think we’ve seen a drop in those levels at Swansea of late) but it appears to be more his strength of character and hunger that has impressed.
And what does Bob himself have to say about all of this?
"I am sorry to leave, especially at this moment," said Bradley after Monday's 2-1 win over Sochaux, a result that left Le Havre fifth in Ligue 2.
"In a perfect world I would go right to the end with this team just like last year - but football does not control timing."
"To go to the Premier League is special.
"It's still an opportunity for me, for my family and for American football. That's important."
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Why Bradley? Given there are so many other candidates out there with previous experience in the Premier League. What qualities does Bradley have to turn our season round? - Chris Lewis, Morriston
A: Some of the attributes stressed to me - and have stood out when trying to research - is his strength of character. Swansea certainly need someone with a firm hand on things and the experience of managing dressing rooms to get more out of players, something Guidolin was failing to do. His time in Egypt is fascinating and his willingness to start lower down and in less high profile jobs in Europe at the expense of the money available in MLS, points to a hunger to prove himself - something that has always worked for Swansea managers, players and the club as a whole when they are at their best.
I have spoken to some who have followed his career more closely and, while the lack of Premier League experience is obviously something to raise an eyebrow at, they all speak in glowing terms of ‘an impressive man’. He will certainly need to make a quick impression at the Liberty.
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How much of this decision do you think has to do with raising our profile in America? Kevin,Swansea
I’d like to think - and hope - none. Raising the profile is no good in the Championship and Swansea would be asking for trouble if that played any part. Besides, it wouldn’t matter if Swansea had an all-American team, it would not make them any bigger than United, Liverpool and others in the States and I’d be surprised if that was a factor. The manager has been appointed after the impression he made and what he can address and the hope for all has to be that he shows it and vindicates recent decisions.
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Do you think the players are not fit enough, as we faded badly against Man City and Liverpool? It sounds like this might well improve under Bradley? - Neil Bennett, Swansea
That is something Bradley’s track record suggests he will address, though it is never an easy thing to get right once pre-season has gone. It does point to those concerns of training ground methods and preparations for games that Swansea haven’t been able to maintain levels over 90 minutes - playing ‘The Swansea Way’ does not come from just tactics but from training.
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Do we know if the decision to hire Bob Bradley was an independent decision by Huw Jenkins, or was he REALLY heavily influenced by the owners ? - Wayne Preece, Morriston
That is a question only Jenkins can truly answer, although separate sources have told me it was Jenkins who pushed for Bradley as his preferred choice from those talked to and that the final call was a agreed upon by all. Whether Bradley would have been in the frame had it not been for the US connection is another matter (although it is thought there is no personal connection between shareholders and Bradley) but the hope has to be that the judgement that brought in the likes of Rodgers and Martinez has not lost Jenkins.
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What style of play and tactics do you think Bob Bradley will use? - Colin Towell, Ammanford
Brad Friedel’s comments on FiveLive were interesting where he suggested he might want Swansea to be slightly more direct. Not so much long ball but ‘less easy on the eye’ is how he put it. Now whether that is what he has done in the past and what he plans to do in the future is another matter. He is said by those who have followed his career he is very much a student of the game and has played a variety of formations. I think there will be an element of the wish for greater fitness (I think we’ve seen a drop in those levels at Swansea of late) but it appears to be more his strength of character and hunger that has impressed.
And what does Bob himself have to say about all of this?
"I am sorry to leave, especially at this moment," said Bradley after Monday's 2-1 win over Sochaux, a result that left Le Havre fifth in Ligue 2.
"In a perfect world I would go right to the end with this team just like last year - but football does not control timing."
"To go to the Premier League is special.
"It's still an opportunity for me, for my family and for American football. That's important."
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