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Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:07 pm to
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Who said anything about fixing it? I'm simply saying that your comparison is horrible.



And had you kept reading, you'd see that I admitted that.
Posted by Chair
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:09 pm to
Kinda sorta...
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Chair


Seriously though, what's wrong with PK's after 120 minutes of stalemate soccer?
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:14 pm to
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Seriously though, what's wrong with PK's after 120 minutes of stalemate soccer?


Brings the outcome of the game to a skills competition. Not taking into account the components of the entire sport.

It's a reasonable argument. But I understand why they do it with the current substitution rules, etc. Not to mention it's a thrilling few minutes.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:15 pm to
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what's wrong with PK's after 120 minutes of stalemate soccer?


I do think it's a horrible way to decide it.

My big issue with it is it's mostly just luck. There's not much skill involved.

But like everyone has said, what else can you do?

quote:

Brings the outcome of the game to a skills competition.

More like a guessing game competition.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:16 pm to
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Brings the outcome of the game to a skills competition


What? PK's are in play even during regulation.

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Not taking into account the components of the entire sport.


Lets take field goals out of football then because it doesn't take into account the components of the entire sport.
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:17 pm to
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My nig issue with it is it's mostly just luck. There's not much skill involved.



There is actually quite a fair amount of skill involved. Guessing right is only half the battle.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:17 pm to
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More like a guessing game competition.



But it's not.


There is actually a science to the PK.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:18 pm to
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I'd edit.

The b is next to the n!

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Guessing right is only half the battle.


Ehhhhhh, if you guess wrong, you are done. Guessing is a huge part of it.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
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There is actually a science to the PK.


I'm dying to hear this.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
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Ehhhhhh, if you guess wrong, you are done. Guessing is a huge part of it.



If a batter guesses wrong on a curveball, he's done, too.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
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My big issue with it is it's mostly just luck. There's not much skill involved


It involves the same amount of skill and/or luck as there is in regulation.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:20 pm to
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What? PK's are in play even during regulation.


Of course. Just like field goals are in football and putts are in golf. But if the US open was decided by a putting contest it doesn't take into account the full body of work. That's all I'm saying.

I don't think it needs to be fixed, though. I understand why it's in place.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:20 pm to
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If a batter guesses wrong on a curveball, he's done, too.


If you can't tell the difference, then there's no point in even discussing this.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
It's in the book 'Soccernomics' in which they explain how you can determine within something over 80% of the time which way a shooter is going to shoot and which way a goalie is going to block.

I'll see if I can find the info on the web so I don't have to type it out word for word from the book.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
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If you can't tell the difference, then there's no point in even discussing this.



Tell me the difference.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
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It involves the same amount of skill and/or luck as there is in regulation.


What?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:22 pm to
There is no more luck in pk's than there is at any other point in the game.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:23 pm to
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Tell me the difference.


Goalie guesses right, he just throws his body out there trying to block the ball with anything he can hoping he stops it.

A batter's swing is much more coordinated and precise.
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