- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Bill Plaschke gonna Bill Plaschke
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:23 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:23 pm to SabiDojo
Here's a painful example for me of how it's not all luck:
quote:
After studying penalty-kick tendencies on video, a researcher correctly predicted where and how Chelsea players would take their penalties during the 2008 Champions League final, won in a shootout by Manchester United in Moscow.
1
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:24 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
There is no more luck in pk's than there is at any other point in the game.
But there is much much more skill and tactics involved throughout an entire game.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:25 pm to Chair
quote:
Goalie guesses right, he just throws his body out there trying to block the ball with anything he can hoping he stops it.
You really think it is that easy, huh?
quote:
A batter's swing is much more coordinated and precise.
So is kicking the ball on a PK
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:25 pm to magildachunks
quote:
Here's a painful example for me of how it's not all luck:
That's likely just an exception to the norm.
But wither way, do goalies have all of this information at their disposal?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:26 pm to Chair
You do realize that goalkeepers have to guess on where the ball is going to go on a free kick, right?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:26 pm to Broski
quote:
So is kicking the ball on a PK
I agree kicking is a little more precise. But we were just talking about the goalie.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:27 pm to Chair
quote:
But we were just talking about the goalie
No we weren't. We are talking about PK's being more or less a guessing game that either require skill or not.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:28 pm to Chair
quote:
But wither way, do goalies have all of this information at their disposal?
Yes.
That info is studied by the clubs and teams. The coaches and goalies have studied the tendencies of the shooters.
The shooters have studied the tendencies of the goalies.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:30 pm to Broski
My thing is: the majority of a PK process/result is left to chance. Goalie has to GUESS right to be successful for the most part. Thre's no skill involved on the goalies part on a PK. There is some skill involved on the kicker's part to actually kick the ball accurately. But he is guessing too on where the goalie will go.
Lot's of guessing and hoping. Not much skill.
Lot's of guessing and hoping. Not much skill.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:31 pm to Bottom9
This type of reply is idiotic. It is similar to the "if you don't want a team to celebrate in the end zone, don't let them score a touchdown." As if that is some simple, yet genius solution that is radically different than what they were just trying to do.
I'm ok with the goal kicks, but I wouldn't mind seeing them use corner kicks either. Those are IMO more exciting and have many more variables than almost complete luck involved to stop a goal kick.
I'm ok with the goal kicks, but I wouldn't mind seeing them use corner kicks either. Those are IMO more exciting and have many more variables than almost complete luck involved to stop a goal kick.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:31 pm to magildachunks
But even so, how much of a sample size do you have to base these guesses on?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:32 pm to Chair
quote:
the majority of a PK process/result is left to chance
So is pretty much every scenario in every sport.
quote:
Goalie has to GUESS right to be successful for the most part.
Again, every sport, guessing the right call is a big part.
quote:
Thre's no skill involved on the goalies part on a PK.
Not true. Goalies guess right all the time and still don't stop the shot.
quote:
There is some skill involved on the kicker's part to actually kick the ball accurately
Not sure why you used the word "some".
quote:
But he is guessing too on where the goalie will go.
See above.
quote:
Lot's of guessing and hoping. Not much skill.
False.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:32 pm to Chair
quote:
But even so, how much of a sample size do you have to base these guesses on?
The entire career of the participants involved
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:34 pm to magildachunks
quote:
The entire career of the participants involved
What is the average amount of PKs taken by a player in a career?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:36 pm to Broski
quote:
So is pretty much every scenario in every sport.
So there is just as much luck in making a basketball or complting a pass as there is in a PK?
quote:
Again, every sport, guessing the right call is a big part.
Some more some less. For a goalie, if he does not guess right, there is NO CHANCE that he will block the ball. For an offensive coordinator, if he guesses wrong, there is still a great chance of success.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:38 pm to Chair
An average wouldn't mean anything. Some players will never take one. Some will take hundreds.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:39 pm to Chair
You can guess wrong and save it with your foot. It happens all the time.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:39 pm to Chair
quote:
For an offensive coordinator, if he guesses wrong, there is still a great chance of success.
Or a great chance for failure.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:40 pm to thesoccerfanjax
Ok. So some may only have taken three in the career at the time of a PK. So how do the tendencies play out there?
If that guy as able to predict 85% right or whatever it was, why can't these teams do it all the time?
If that guy as able to predict 85% right or whatever it was, why can't these teams do it all the time?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:40 pm to Chair
quote:
So there is just as much luck in making a basketball or complting a pass as there is in a PK?
If you are going to make a smart arse retort with an emoticon, at least make sure you spell everything correctly.
And where did I ever say anything about the impact of the guessing. You're entire crux of this argument was that PK's are dumb because it's a guessing game, well, there is guessing in all sports.
You are coming off as very ignorant here.
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News