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re: Arsenal 2016/2017 Season Long Thread: 13 time FA Cup Champs

Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:52 pm to
We need to firesale this team and try again. Keep Ox, Kos, Hector, and Welbz. Let the rest burn.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12482 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:09 pm to
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Welbz


People always pine for him to play, but I don't see him as a must keep.
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:49 pm to
He's a great super sub/backup ST.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28445 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:13 pm to
Ozil has been pretty terrible. We can't afford to have a player who does no defensive work and doesn't close down defenders.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30882 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:05 pm to
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Ozil has been pretty terrible.


I don't mean to beat my own drum but it's amazing how often I'm right.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155827 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:07 pm to
Let's fight everyone.
Posted by RebelVol
The Sip
Member since Aug 2016
4186 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:18 pm to
I don't wanna bash on Özil too hard because his jersey is the first Arsenal jersey I ever owned, so in a way hes kind of special to me but he's been absolutely shitty the second half of the season.

And as you said he does no defending. Hell, we have to play a certain system simply because of him. I get that he's the record signing so Arsene wants to always have him out there but when he's not on form he shouldn't be picked. Plain and simple.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:18 pm to
I think people here aren't giving credit to Ozil's versatility. The right system for Ozil also requires not having retards in central midfield. Ramsey was far worse than Ozil, and he should be dropped. At least Ozil moved without the ball, tried to get into dangerous positions, and tried pressing. Ramsey has been far more worthless.

I don't understand why we dropped Holding. He's fantastic on the ball and if he can get his passing right, we don't need Ramsey dropping deep, acting like a retard, slowing our play to a snail's pace.
Posted by RebelVol
The Sip
Member since Aug 2016
4186 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:44 am to
We really need to clean out this summer. Maybe not go 100% revamp and everyone gets axed, but we definitely need wholesale changes.

If you haven't performed well this year (cough, Coq), haven't played hardly any (RIP Jenko), or just plain aren't good enough to be a starter/future starter or capable backup you need to be sold.
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I don't understand why we dropped Holding
I don't either. I was thinking the regular back 3 with Nacho and Hector on the wings would've worked fine. And then we wouldn't have needed Rambo, Ox would've taken his spot.

Heck man, I'm just ready for this season to be over with
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:48 am to
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don't understand why we dropped Holding.


He's changed to a back four during the game 3 times now. It's almost like he purposefully sabotaged the back 3 to make a point.


Why start Gibbs? Why take off xhaka and leave on Ramsey. Why bring on Wellbeck and put him down the right?
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by GeauxHouston
Houston,TX
Member since Nov 2013
4445 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:35 pm to
Taking off Xhaka for Welbeck just blew my mind.....
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:20 am to
frick this season, man. I'm so apathetic about this team at the moment.

If the club or Wenger would come out and say something about the future, I'd at least be able to distract myself with summer transfer window thoughts or, more unlikely, who would be our next manager.

Instead, I'm just sitting here waiting for this motherfricker to be done with.
Posted by Novae
Member since Aug 2005
97 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:23 pm to
*paging glassman*

We need your optimism in this thread and for this team, STAT!
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:02 pm to
The silver lining is of course the FA Cup final. A trophy is a trophy and the FA Cup is a big one.

I just hate how uninspiring and boring and disconnected our play is. Outside of 3-0 vs. Chelsea this year and 3-0 vs. United last year, I can't think of any others games in the last two years where I've enjoyed the way we played and the result we got.

Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116162 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:09 pm to
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just hate how uninspiring and boring and disconnected our play is. Outside of 3-0 vs. Chelsea this year and 3-0 vs. United last year, I can't think of any others games in the last two years where I've enjoyed the way we played and the result we got.


The pounding we gave Southhampton in the FA Cup earlier this season is just about the only other one I can think of. We are so static and readable. Only Sanchez is unpredictable and to be honest he gives the ball away too much.
quote:

the FA Cup final. A trophy is a trophy and the FA Cup is a big one.


It is imperative we win that or the entire season is complete garbage. I'm not optimistic on that result, but I would love to deny Chelsea a double.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12482 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Only Sanchez is unpredictable and to be honest he gives the ball away too much.


I actually think Sanchez is extremely predictable. It's one of the issues with our attack. He's just so good, he can still beat people when they know he is going to go to his right every single time.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:11 am to
this team just sucks. outside of FA cup have they even eat a top four team
Posted by RebelVol
The Sip
Member since Aug 2016
4186 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 2:05 am to
We beat the "old" Chelsea (pre formation switch).
Idk about the others tbh, but I don't think we have. And I don't care to go back and look

This has been a terrible season league wise. Unfortunately next year will probably be the same or worse
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:25 am to
Anyone going to watch?

quote:

Arsenal: Cech, Holding, Koscielny, Monreal, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Xhaka, Ramsey, Gibbs, Alexis, Ozil, Welbeck
Posted by RebelVol
The Sip
Member since Aug 2016
4186 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:11 am to
I don't understand his reasoning for playing some of these guys

But to answer your question, no
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