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re: Your mind will wrap itself in knots if you ponder the term 'African American'

Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:57 pm to
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That says more about the bigoted Americans at that time than it does the immigrants.
Yes, but people in every country are bigoted toward immigrants. There is a human, natural distrust of "others" as well as an instinct toward self-preservation. People rightly wonder how the immigrant will be supported financially and how much it will cost them in tax dollars. So bigotry, if you want to call it that, is not a uniquely American phenomenon. In fact, I would argue that America is among the most welcoming countries for immigrants in the history of the world.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:05 pm to
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What's our invention? Slavery?
The role of blacks in society up to a certain point, and the culture that defined that role.
Posted by Aristo
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:48 pm to
Democrats like to keep the label African American as to remind the blacks they don't want them here. They are Americans who happen to be black.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:49 pm to
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if you ponder the term 'African American'


Why would I waste time doing that?
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:13 pm to
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But that only applies to people with colored skin, so white immigrants from Africa can't use the term.


This isn't true. I have a couple of white friends of African descent who identify as African American. The black people we know love it.
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:05 pm to
Dividing people by race. It essentially only exists in western nations. Especially English colonies.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:15 pm to
Is it any worse than Hispanic surnamed American?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Dividing people by race. It essentially only exists in western nations. Especially English colonies.


Yeah...no.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:26 pm to
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But that only applies to people with colored skin, so white immigrants from Africa can't use the term

They can be African americans. My south African Co worker tells people he's African American all the time
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:28 pm to
It's really not that hard the term African-American is used because due to the Atlantic Slave Trade they don't know what country they're originally from.

A white or black person who family came to American after the Atlantic Slave Trade and knows their lineage would say they are Nigerian or South African or Ethiopian or _____________(insert country) -american
Posted by JohnnyT
Central Texas
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:35 pm to
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I know a white guy who was born and raised in South Africa and when he moved to the US as a teenager and then applied for colleges, he was told he couldn't put "African" or "African American" on his applications because he was the wrong color.

Back in the day, a buddy of mine in undergrad engineering at LSU was a white South African who listed himself as African American. He still does it at every opportunity.

I think it's awesome.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:38 pm to
Everyone is from Africa---case settled
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:30 pm to
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It's really not that hard the term African-American is used because due to the Atlantic Slave Trade they don't know what country they're originally from.
It's more fun to be ignorant of this so we can call the blacks uppity.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:55 am to
The term came about because white progressives a few decades back thought that the label of "black" was negative. Black is associated with darkness and evil in all societies. That needed to be fixed so they relabeled them as African Americans. True story.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:57 am to
I just call them blacks
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 1:08 am to
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In fact, when someone calls themself 'African American' I would challenge you to counter with 'black' and see what happens.


I have never used "African American" in my life. Just as you mentioned, it does not make any sense. Charlize Theron is actually from South Africa. So she would be African American, right? Nope. But some black that has never left NOLA's ninth ward is African American? Never!
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:17 am to
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The term came about because white progressives a few decades back thought that the label of "black" was negative. Black is associated with darkness and evil in all societies. That needed to be fixed so they relabeled them as African Americans. True story.
No, false, ignorant story. In the 1980's and 1990's, the population of people with recent Caribbean and African ancestry increased significantly, highlighting that we didn't have a word for those Americans with roots that dried up in the African diaspora. That's why the term African-American exists.

"Those people are Nigerians. Those people are Haitians. Those people...hmm...what we call those people in Harlem that doesn't start with n?"

That's where the term comes from. Amazing how willfully ignorant so many around here are. The term has a specific meaning for a specific purpose, and it doesn't mean the same thing as "black."
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:18 am to
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Just as you mentioned, it does not make any sense.
Makes perfect sense if you're not afraid of reading ballscaster posts in the thread.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:26 am to
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We just finished Black History Month, a celebration of black culture.
But we aren't supposed to judge people by skin color so we say African American. This would mean 'Black History Month' is offensive?

But that only applies to people with colored skin, so white immigrants from Africa can't use the term.

But it does apply to people of color outside of the US, hence phrases like African American Briton. Has there ever been an African American African listed in a story?

Best not to think about this too much I guess.


Well I have a dumber term for you

"Native American"

Now they do not want to be called "Indians" but they do not mind being called "natives" of a land named after an Italian.

It would be like Martians invading earth, calling it "Applesauce", and us demanding to be called "Native Applesaucians".
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:29 am to
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Now they do not want to be called "Indians" but they do not mind being called "natives" of a land named after an Italian.
Actually, many of them prefer the term Indian, and for specific reasons, but you'd rather enjoy the comfort of ignorance than find out why.
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It would be like Martians invading earth, calling it "Applesauce", and us demanding to be called "Native Applesaucians".
Out of your arse.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 6:30 am
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