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re: You be the admissions director
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:24 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:24 pm to NC_Tigah
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There are major differences. Take a look at the Harvard Admissions Scattergraph posted earlier by anc.
Wow @ the person who got a 3.1 in school and nailed a 15 on the ACT and still got accepted into Harvard.
LOL @ the person with a 2.8 GPA who got a perfect score on either the SAT or ACT. That's exactly the untapped potential that thrives in Silicon Valley. There's people with 4.0 GPAs and perfect SATs who were also denied. I guess they didn't get diversity points.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 9:26 pm
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:48 pm to Asgard Device
I would still like to see sourcing for that plot. This doesn't seem like the type of info Harvard would disclose voluntarily.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:53 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:i would too.
I would still like to see sourcing for that plot
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:24 pm to NC_Tigah
I asked earlier and didn't get a clear answer so I went looking for it.
I found it on this website.
LINK
The notation states that the data was provided by cappex.com. You have to create a (free) account to see the scattograms for yourself but their notation states that they are "Based on historical self-reported student data" so I'm still a little skeptical.
LINK
Like I stated earlier, Harvard doesn't volunteer this information on their own website and, at least nominally, doesn't even have SAT minimums.
LINK
I found it on this website.
LINK
The notation states that the data was provided by cappex.com. You have to create a (free) account to see the scattograms for yourself but their notation states that they are "Based on historical self-reported student data" so I'm still a little skeptical.
LINK
Like I stated earlier, Harvard doesn't volunteer this information on their own website and, at least nominally, doesn't even have SAT minimums.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:25 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:In what possible universe does a scattergraph on undergrad admissions remotely answer my point about law school?
There are major differences. Take a look at the Harvard Admissions Scattergraph posted earlier by anc.
Like, even if you hadn't simply conflated the two (hint: the LSAT is a wholly different beast than the SAT/ACT) it still wouldn't answer my point about its extremely limited predictive ability.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:29 pm to Iosh
quote:Predictive of what?
it still wouldn't answer my point about its extremely limited predictive ability.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:30 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:
Based on historical self-reported student data"
Yep, totally legit.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Sorry, my past engagements with SEC Crazy and Dawgfaninca have taught me not to enable illiteracy disguised as argument. Consider this your reading comprehension section.
Predictive of what?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:41 pm to Iosh
quote:Fine. Now then, predictive of what?
Sorry, my past engagements with SEC Crazy and Dawgfaninca have taught me not to enable illiteracy disguised as argument.
Hint: This will go on until you clarify or exit.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:21 am to Zach
The Ivies have been openly doing the opposite for decades. Rich kid with an ACT score of 25 gets in over poor kid with ACT of 34. Especially if the rich kid's daddy went to that school. School wants to get the rich kid's money.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:50 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:Taking your example, and understanding the vast majority of ivy admissions are brilliant students, the coalescence of connections and capability could be a better catalysis for their success than a student body comprised of uniformly high capability without those connections. I think that's the concept. If the model is expected to generate a litany of political, social, and business leaders, the money should take care of itself.
The Ivies have been openly doing the opposite for decades. Rich kid with an ACT score of 25 gets in over poor kid with ACT of 34. Especially if the rich kid's daddy went to that school. School wants to get the rich kid's money.
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