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Wow, didn't know the 9th circuit has an 80% reversal rate at the Supreme Court
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:21 am
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:21 am
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I've heard the last few days that they are bad, but I didn't realize they were that bad. That is insane. How are they taken seriously?
I've heard the last few days that they are bad, but I didn't realize they were that bad. That is insane. How are they taken seriously?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:23 am to Contra
Again, so no other people are confused, it varies year to year and it only involves cases that the SCOTUS actually takes. The SCOTUS takes less than 1% of the cases that come out of the 9th circuit each year, and even then, they are usually only taking them because they want to reverse them.
ETA: The SCOTUS has lately been reversing a ton of qualified immunity (immunity for officers who violate your rights) and environmental cases out of that circuit. The 9th likes to hold police accountable for fricking with citizens rights; the Supreme Court? Not so much.
ETA: The SCOTUS has lately been reversing a ton of qualified immunity (immunity for officers who violate your rights) and environmental cases out of that circuit. The 9th likes to hold police accountable for fricking with citizens rights; the Supreme Court? Not so much.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 8:25 am
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:23 am to Contra
They are one of the largest circuits and only a marginal amount of their cases by the Supreme Court.
The vast majority of their rulings stand
The vast majority of their rulings stand
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:23 am to Contra
Nah lefties here say that the high percentage is misleading bc they have a high number of cases.
What are the % of reversals of the other circuit courts?
What are the % of reversals of the other circuit courts?
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 8:25 am
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:24 am to Contra
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:25 am to Contra
They're basically the peej of law.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:26 am to Ingeniero
quote:nice
They're basically the peej of law.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:26 am to Contra
Fake news. False title. Anchor coming.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:26 am to mahdragonz
They get overturned by a LARGE margin more than any other circuit. There's no defending him.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:26 am to STEVED00
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Nah lefties here say that the high percentage is misleading bc they have a high number of cases.
It's not a lefty thing. It's just facts, but spin it all you want.
It's a left-leaning court with a huge number of cases who can only be reviewed by a right-leaning court. I wonder why reversals happen so much?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:26 am to Contra
Do you understand why cases go to the Supreme Court? 99.8% of the 9th circuit's decisions aren't even reviewed.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:29 am to mahdragonz
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They are one of the largest circuits and only a marginal amount of their cases by the Supreme Court. The vast majority of their rulings stand
Because they're not challenged.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:32 am to Fun Bunch
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They get overturned by a LARGE margin more than any other circuit.
Does anyone have the numbers for the other circuits? I'd like to see a comparison of what percentages of the other circuits' cases that go before the SCOTUS get overturned. I'll make the assumption that it's not 80% for most of the circuits.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:33 am to Contra
at all of the legal experts on this board contorting themselves in order to make excuses why the 9th Circuit's reversal rate at the SCOTUS is not relevant.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:36 am to Contra
Scotus blog has district score cards listed on their site, you should check them out. The 11th has had all their decisions that were considered reversed the past 2 years. Two sessions ago scotus overturned 72% overall with the 9th at 68%. Last year 9th was at 80% with total at 67%. State courts were overturned at 85% rate last year. It's important to get "inside the numbers" and not just fall for shiny objects.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:36 am to FalseProphet
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they are usually only taking them because they want to reverse them
That's just nonsense.
The is median is 68 percent (even including the 9th circus).
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:37 am to LSURussian
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at all of the legal experts on this board contorting themselves in order to make excuses why the 9th Circuit's reversal rate at the SCOTUS is not relevant.
The reversal rate is relevant in normal circumstances. This is not a normal circumstance. The reviewing court does not have a majority-conservative lean, this isn't a run-of-the-mill case where the judges won't consider political implications, and you need 5 judges to stay the stay.
So, why is it relevant again, and why do you seem to know the result already?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:38 am to Contra
When I was involved in counter narcotic operations, all our cases were held in the 11th (Tampa). They were very friendly to Federales. This included seizures made right off Baha. It was far above my pay grade on how those cases were always held in the 11th without geographic considerations of the actual interdictions.
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