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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:06 am to No Colors
No way. Trump has set the standard for what it takes to defeat the democrat pandering, lying, socialist, identity politics machine. Come out swinging, attack at every chance, no compromise. Anything less will be steamrolled by the leftists and the entitlement moochers.
The democrat party had perfected their playbook for defeating standard republican candidates. Trump made that playbook obsolete. They still have that playbook ready to roll if they get the chance again.
The democrat party had perfected their playbook for defeating standard republican candidates. Trump made that playbook obsolete. They still have that playbook ready to roll if they get the chance again.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:07 am to No Colors
Nah,
Since the left sees Trump as Hitler, they would only see Pence as Himmler.
Since the left sees Trump as Hitler, they would only see Pence as Himmler.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:07 am to Jspaspa3303
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It’s hilarious to me how easily Trumps accomplishments are forgotten . The guy did more in 4 years for our country then any President before him. All while fighting the democrats and media .
This frustrates me more than anything. Think of the constant attacks on him by the Dems yet he has accomplished more that any other president has in my lifetime. He gets no fricking credit.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:12 am to coachcrisp
Link?
Trumps personality hasn't changed
Trumps personality hasn't changed
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:14 am to V Bainbridge
Soft, bitch arse republicans like Pence more.
The reality is; Pence would have been devoured by this ruthless democrat smear machine... just like the last 2 republican nominees before Trump.
The reality is; Pence would have been devoured by this ruthless democrat smear machine... just like the last 2 republican nominees before Trump.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:19 am to Vacherie Saint
Pence would have gotten the entire conservative vote, the huge majority of independents, and the dim voters who would switch because of laptop gate.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:26 am to No Colors
I have to work with people from both parties for my job. I’ve heard more than a few times from people within the party that many republicans feel like they have a Trump problem. He wins this election he can prove them all wrong, even if it’s a razor thin victory.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:28 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:This.
The reality is; Pence would have been devoured by this ruthless democrat smear machine... just like the last 2 republican nominees before Trump.
There is no other candidate who could have weathered all of this as well as Trump has.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:30 am to BamaGradinTn
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No one is suggesting he "sit this one out". But the fact remains that Trump may very be the most hated president in American history. Pence would have certainly demonstrated much more empathy, and he sure as hell wouldn't have let Joe Biden turn a fricking mask into a political weapon. The hard reality is that Trump often can't get out of his own fricking way. He should have had this election sewn up by now.
There is no sewn up when the refs are dirty and refuse to cover blatant and dangerous corruption and pedophillia and incest.
See their hate for ACB. They hate everyone not on their side. They’d destroyed Pence.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:33 am to Scruffy
quote:bullshite.
This.
There is no other candidate who could have weathered all of this as well as Trump has.
Pence has neither the personal baggage nor the propensity to get himself into bad situations.
He would have taken the accomplishment of the last 4 years, and dismissed the blunders as not really his.
He'd be cruising by now.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:35 am to coachcrisp
Lol no.
You can't logically assume Pence would have entered this cycle with the same record of achievement that Trump has. It doesn't work that way. Pence has never been provocative or bucked the party and he has the personality of Balsa wood. Trump made his bones governing in a way Pence would never dare; snubbing his nose at detractors, courting black voters, and being willing to compromise with dems.
Look. Turn off cable news and relax. We have to listen to this TX, FL, GA tripe every cycle. People who voted Trump in 16 have every reason to be happy with their choice, and the need voter numbers have been historically good for republicans. Trump is going to win this election.
You can't logically assume Pence would have entered this cycle with the same record of achievement that Trump has. It doesn't work that way. Pence has never been provocative or bucked the party and he has the personality of Balsa wood. Trump made his bones governing in a way Pence would never dare; snubbing his nose at detractors, courting black voters, and being willing to compromise with dems.
Look. Turn off cable news and relax. We have to listen to this TX, FL, GA tripe every cycle. People who voted Trump in 16 have every reason to be happy with their choice, and the need voter numbers have been historically good for republicans. Trump is going to win this election.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:35 am to coachcrisp
Pretty sure Trump's a phenomenon that can't be duplicated, and for every example of the negative that you cite, there is the aforementioned phenomenon that makes up for the negative, in spades.
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:36 am to coachcrisp
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He would have taken the accomplishment of the last 4 years
Pence would never have come close to accomplishing this agenda. This isn't really even worth debating.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:37 am to N97883
quote:bullshite again!
There is no sewn up when the refs are dirty and refuse to cover blatant and dangerous corruption and pedophillia and incest.
See their hate for ACB. They hate everyone not on their side. They’d destroyed Pence.
Firstly, Pence wouldn't even need the laptop debacle to win, then show me how ACB was damaged in ANY way by her confirmation hearing...probably the opposite!
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:38 am to coachcrisp
quote:Pence would have folded like every other candidate the Republicans have put up pre-Trump.
Pence has neither the personal baggage nor the propensity to get himself into bad situations.
He would have taken the accomplishment of the last 4 years, and dismissed the blunders as not really his.
He'd be cruising by now.
When this all started before 2016, he was not as direct or as strong in his responses as he is now.
He changed in response to how Trump acted over the previous 4 years.
Had Trump not been there, he would have withered under the media’s screaming like so many other Republicans do.
He also wouldn’t have beaten Hillary.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:39 am to No Colors
I think Booker would have a better chance at beating Trump than Biden. The year of BLM and someone who could stay up with Trumps energy. The Dems threw out one of the most fricked up candidates in American history.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:41 am to coachcrisp
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People aren't voting for Biden...they're voting against Trump
Because people are dumbasses. Libs hated Trump on election night in 2016 because he wasn't Hillary. There is no substance in their vitriol, it is all based on political parties. These same people are burning down cities because a rapist with a knife was shot by police. There has never been a group of people dumber than American liberals.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:42 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:liberals are voting for liberals. No liberal is voting for pence
Liberals are voting against Trump rather than for Biden. This is practically a death sentence for Biden’s campaign.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:42 am to No Colors
I understand that a great many people are voting against trump.
We will have to wait and see what comes from the election.
Pence would not have the people willing to crawl over broken glass to vote for him like trump does.
We will have to wait and see what comes from the election.
Pence would not have the people willing to crawl over broken glass to vote for him like trump does.
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