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re: Why is nationalism such a bad thing?

Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:13 am to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29386 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:13 am to
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"The name of American, which belongs to you in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of patriotism more than any appellation derived from local discriminations. With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles. You have in a common cause fought and triumphed together; the independence and liberty you possess are the work of joint counsels, and joint efforts of common dangers, sufferings, and successes."- George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79212 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:15 am to
I'm pretty nationalistic, so I find nothing wrong with nationalism.

I think bigger problems arise when niche views of what define America are worked into a brand of nationalism.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:15 am to
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It's not when it's checked with a healthy skepticism of all things Government.

It's when Socialism and Nationalism meet that's the problem


Luckily for us, the people who settled here and made this country brought with them a healthy skepticism of government, which they passed onto their descendents.

We're now being replaced, though, with people who don't share that distrust, and don't believe in the freedoms we took for granted.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:17 am to
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uh..zach. love you man, but the coke song was 'i'd like to teach the world to sing'. 'we are the world' was a bunch of faggy 80s rockstars raising money for people who live in african deserts.


Thanks for the correction but I don't see much difference between the two.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20999 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:17 am to
Because globalist have been successful in weakening traditional western power through globalist ideas. The push back to nationalism means these traditional powers will start growing again and these globalist cannot keep up.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21889 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:21 am to
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Someone tell me what's so Damn wrong with nationalism Why does the left consider it to be evil?


Because the current leftist's are Socialist/Marxists.
They believe in open borders
Nationalized Industry
One world of "happy people"
No religion

Their ideas are best described by the John Lennon Song Imagine


Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today... Aha-ah...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one



But of course with them running it all.

As was written by George Orwell in Animal Farm

All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others
This post was edited on 11/16/16 at 10:23 am
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44018 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:22 am to
ALL-AMERICAN school poster from 1950

This post was edited on 11/16/16 at 10:31 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42567 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:22 am to
The current form of globalism failed because only the elite rich were gaining wealth, so for that reason I am against it. But nationalism is not perfect. Hitler was a strong nationalist. If we were to go full nationalism and remove ourself from world politics, someone will fill that void, and push for full control again like Hitler did. It is a game of balance. We should put our people first, but lend a hand to productive people across the globe. Take all of the best and brightest, and keep the .5% from starting monopolies and hording all of our resources.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11960 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:23 am to
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Why is nationalism such a bad thing?

It's not.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67926 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:23 am to
It's not.

It got a bad rap because one dude engaged in hyper-nationalism.

Anything in excess is usually bad.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:30 am to
Nationalism is bad for the powerful, international clique. The global aristocracy and psychopaths do not appreciate that nationalism is limiting to the power someone could have in the world.

That is why people that support nationalism are literally Hitler.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:30 am to
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Because globalist have been successful in weakening traditional western power through globalist ideas.
How so? Western Nations still dominate, and the nations on the rise have embraced Western economics. China only became powerful as they've moved away from communism towards capitalism.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:49 am to
It isn't bad in and of itself

History shows it can lead to some bad shite though
Posted by PerCuriam
backrooms, alleys and trusty woods
Member since Apr 2016
1577 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:09 am to
because democrats and the media have made it a boogey man like the confederate flag...a symbol of white culture...

dont worry, just another arrow from our friends the Marxists...Authors of the Big Lie!

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:11 am to
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Because the left has successfully spun nationalism to equal racism


If that were true, people would not have elected Trump. I think a lot of people see through the bullshite finally.
This post was edited on 11/16/16 at 11:11 am
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15310 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:11 am to
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It's when Socialism and Nationalism meet that's the problem


Yup as well as funding the military industrial complex.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46433 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:12 am to
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belief that it is better and more important than other countries

found their problem with it

they want everyone equal
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18924 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:19 am to
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better and more important than other countries
that part
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98813 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:27 am to
it's not
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:28 am to
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It's not we have just allowed a bunch of progressive leftists dictate the narrative that it is bad to be a proud American.

Well, and Christians...

Seven Deadly Sins:

Lust
Gluttony
Greed
Sloth
Wrath
Envy
Pride

...yep, there it is.
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