Started By
Message
locked post

Why GDP growth isn't even relevant (anymore) to 90% of the population

Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:14 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:14 pm


Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:30 pm to
There are structural reasons for this.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:31 pm to
Yeah - "structural" reasons.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:31 pm to
So you're finally saying it went to shite since Obama took office??
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:31 pm to
Wow. Look at the disparity that's happened under Obama. It's the worst.

From Huffington Post:

quote:

Income inequality worse under Obama than George W. Bush


LINK

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:34 pm to
Why do you think this is the case?
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8508 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:36 pm to
Wow, SpidermanTUba just stumbled into being right. Good for you, man. You're still technically wrong, but good for you.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:37 pm to
It appeared to be headed that way. Looks like under Bill Clinton, the trend was reversed, and then plummeted under Bush.

The crash of 2008 is no doubt a big reflection under Obama
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:39 pm to
dat stimulus doe

thanks obama

in seriousness, more background on all of that would be interesting. i'd really like to see that same type of breakdown by income class on shares of income contraction during recessions

and btw, regarding the title:
quote:

to 90% of the population

more than 10% of the population has been in the top 10% at some point or will be in their lifetime. so GDP will matter to more than 10%, obv
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:41 pm to
I think the more damning stat is that even during the healthy economic years of the 80s and 90s, the growth wasn't widespread.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8508 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

The crash of 2008 is no doubt a big reflection under Obama
'08 wasn't Obama's fault, dude. It was Clinton's and Bush's. It started when Clinton had Janet Reno coerce the banks that belonged to the Federal Reserve into lowering their standards on mortgage loans for political purposes. Bush continued this as it was political gold, and eventually when these loans weren't paid back and the banks started foreclosing the houses, the housing industry came to a disastrous crash. Then lending went down by a fricking ton, and understandably so. Now, Bush, Obama, and the 2006-2010 congress can be blamed for the vast majority of the awful "recovery" policies that have been put in place. These things left us with a much weaker currency, an unsustainable amount of people leaving the work force in favor of Government payouts, and an amount of debt that has Ray Charles flinching.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:44 pm to
I don't know how "damning" it can be. Then again, I've believed for a long time that our mid-century prosperity was a fluke.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

Yeah - "structural" reasons.
Yes, "structural".

"Structural" . . . as in 1 of 4 Americans age 25-54y/o not working during this """expansion""".
Posted by inthemorning
Alabama
Member since Sep 2014
395 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:50 pm to
If you are saying that it's better for most people to starve than for some to get fat then you are an envious monster. If you are saying economic growth isn't important then you are more anti-science than a creationist.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8508 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:51 pm to
In a way, that's true. It makes sense that the United States became an immediate economic power as soon as every other economic power on Earth (or at least the ones interested in actual commerce) had been destroyed. However, the conditions of this can be recreated without the destruction of war, as evidenced by the economic success of the 1980's, and to some extent the 1990's. (Although the tail-end of the success of the 90's was a bit of foreshadowing to the housing crisis when the dot-com bubble burst.)
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35393 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

more than 10% of the population has been in the top 10% at some point or will be in their lifetime. so GDP will matter to more than 10%, obv
That logic truly sucks.I shouldn't even call it logic.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8508 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:56 pm to
It's true actually. If you've ever owned a home, you've been in at least the top 20%.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Wow. Look at the disparity that's happened under Obama. It's the worst.


Clearly it must be his fault. The graph indicates a clear upward trend for the bottom 90% - until Obama. Econ 101.


"Income inequality - frick you, it doesn't matter - but just in case it does - its OBAMA'S fault" - Every Right Winger
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

That logic truly sucks.I shouldn't even call it logic.

Individuals move in & out of income deciles like crazy when you're talking about spans as large as a lifetime. That logic is motherfricking airtight. frick off.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram