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re: Why does the media lean left?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:44 am to Old Hellen Yeller
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:44 am to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:Its not even close. Compare audiences, affiliates, staff, bureaus and budget. Traditional (and left leaning) sources far out number any right-leaning sources I can think of.
To be truthful, there is no MSM anymore. It's just a boogeyman in the closet for conservatives to point at. Everything the left has is matched or amplified by equally partisan sources from the right.
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:54 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:The internet has helped. With the decline in news staffs.... management has had the ability to be choosy about what staff gets retained. They are keeping the most corporate-friendly and left leaning. It's like a purge of any oppositional views.
There has been 75 to 80 years of movement to the left in both the media and academia. I don't believe it is a natural movement but rather one by design.
That means there is no one at the producer/editor level or even newsroom to challenge poor, slanted, biased content anymore. Even if you see it, you don't risk your job by speaking out. Right-leaners were always the minority when I worked in news (early 90s). Now they don't exist at all...
quote:Controlling the narrative is extremely powerful. One of the things I'n still pizzed about is the Republicans repealing media ownership rules. And even more pizzed at Bill Clinton for signing it into law.
Without the media and academia the left would be as irrelevant as their ideas. As things stand today they control the narrative.
I'm all for small government, but it's is one issue where traditional liberals (RIP) were correct. Local ownership was (-and is-) a necessity.
The concentration of media ownership has made hijacking the narrative much, much easier. And we're already seeing the results.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:56 am to Doosh606
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I'm of the opinion that the western world is growing increasingly liberal because of increased separation of real life issues, ie procuring food, clothing, self defense, etc. All of our kids grow up in this environment where everything is about them and nothing will ever go wrong because everything is planned by mommy or daddy.
Self reliance is not longer considered a virtue. Being poor is. It's bizzaro.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:29 am to TxTiger82
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By that logic, shouldn't anyone with a college degree be a liberal?
No.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:35 am to Zach
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Haven't read this thread so someone may have already said it...
The first lesson you learn in Journalism is that your job is 'to comfort the afflicted; and afflict the comfortable.'
They see themselves as champions of the oppressed and enemies of 'the other'. The other = Minorities, women, gays, Palestinians, etc. Conservatives would not feel comfortable working in the newsroom
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:35 pm to gthog61
Because being liberal leaning implies they are focusing on progression. Which is what keeps news stations open. Why would we care if it was just "keep social issues the same as 1950" and "cut taxes."
Repeal Obamacare 900000000000 times.
Repeal Obamacare 900000000000 times.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:41 pm to Golfer
I think it started as altruistic as things CAN be with this type of stuff. It was used to control perception and help people that were being poorly represented and mistreated... and it worked REALLY well. Then it just continued and gets abused by people needing to keep their jobs.
Now, there are far more people that subscribe to the TYPE of garbage that they put out because of how long this mind poisoning has gone on. Now, the slant comes from creating a narrative to keep people interested.
Ultimately, it's We the People that are at fault for employing them through our own TV clicks and buying their bs. WE need to stop tuning in.
Now, there are far more people that subscribe to the TYPE of garbage that they put out because of how long this mind poisoning has gone on. Now, the slant comes from creating a narrative to keep people interested.
Ultimately, it's We the People that are at fault for employing them through our own TV clicks and buying their bs. WE need to stop tuning in.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:42 pm to Golfer
quote:because they care for the everyman, not just the million and billionaires, most of which screwed people over on their way to the top.
Why does the media lean left?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:50 pm to m2pro
quote:Without doubt most go to j-school to "change the world" not "report the facts".
I think it started as altruistic as things CAN be with this type of stuff. It was used to control perception and help people that were being poorly represented and mistreated... and it worked REALLY well.
quote:Quite frankly "WE" are stopping. Audiences are in decline (with notable exceptions).
Ultimately, it's We the People that are at fault for employing them through our own TV clicks and buying their bs. WE need to stop tuning in.
I think this comment (from the link I posted earlier) captures it well...
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My bottom line as a consumer of news is that I want to read articles that are balanced and intelligently written by a journalist who is well informed at source. The articles should be well thought out and constructed and provide a reliable, unbiased reflection of truth; what is actually happening. What I find online is a lot of cut and paste junk, often reworded from somewhere else, postings that wouldn't have been permitted in Journalism 101 class.
Question: What is going to keep standards high, what is going to inform the public, in an era when standards have slipped and top quality thinkers, investigators and writers are 'wisely' (they want to make a living after all) not choosing to enter into this endeavor.
Next question: What can be done to protect all of us, the public? We, as thinking, voting individuals in a free society, must have reliable information so that we can make sound decisions in our lives. Collective ignorance is the friend of Totalitarians and despotic regimes. I believe that the future of our country, our Western society, and that of global society, is at stake.
There's an untapped appetite out there. And it's growing. Someone will tap it...
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:50 pm to TT9
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because they care for the everyman, not just the million and billionaires, most of which screwed people over on their way to the top.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:56 pm to BamaScoop
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This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:59 pm to TT9
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because they care for the everyman, not just the million and billionaires, most of which screwed people over on their way to the top.
...quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard!!!!
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:01 pm to Jim Ignatowski
Facts be stupid yo.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:02 pm to TT9
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because they care for the everyman, not just the million and billionaires, most of which screwed people over on their way to the top.
If they cared about the "everyman", as you say, why do they support a narrative that makes it far easier for the wealthy to exploit the middle class and poor?
They distract us with the personal lives of celebrities and racial tension while the policies enacted by government continue to reward the corporatist agenda and destroy the middle class in the process.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:07 pm to TT9
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because they care for the everyman, not just the million and billionaires, most of which screwed people over on their way to the top.
Holy crap. Yea, no place in the democratic party for the likes of George Soros, Tom Steyer or the hollywood elite. 
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:09 pm to TT9
It's funny that you say that as if successful people should be responsible for those they "screw over". Do those poor souls have any responsibility for themselves?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:12 pm to Larry Gooseman
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By your broad brush logic, because first cousin marriage is legal in Alabama everyone must be married to first cousins, thus making everyone first cousins.
Not that it's my fight here, but your issue is looking at a spade and calling it a club. Good math makes lots of things sound tough, because our society has been taught that using any and all descriptive qualifiers when describing any other walk of life than one's own... for example, at the rate we're going it will be wrong to say your wife was from Mobile!!! It's absurd how unfreely Americans can talk.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:14 pm to Jay Quest
That's just a few examples. Most of the rich vote republican and you know it.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:14 pm to WW
quote:Mo one "screws over" the people moreai than government. In both quantity and magnitude. It's not even close.
It's funny that you say that as if successful people should be responsible for those they "screw over".
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:14 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Quite frankly "WE" are stopping. Audiences are in decline (with notable exceptions).
The internet is helping a lotttttt, as it is for now. Consider this forum here... unfiltered except in truly offensive material.
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