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Why does New Orleans have more murders than similar cities?

Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:17 pm
LINK

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Despite not being that far apart in the number of residents - 357,411 for New Orleans and 412,162 for Atlanta - and having similar poverty rates - 27.7 percent and 25.2 percent, respectively - there were 164 homicides in New Orleans last year compared to 95 in Atlanta.

This discrepancy holds true when New Orleans is compared to a number of other mid-size American cities with comparable poverty levels, including Cleveland and Cincinnati in Ohio, Newark, N.J., Oakland and Fresno in California, Tulsa, Okla., and Minneapolis, Minn.



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"Poverty by itself is a very powerful variable in trying to make sense out of crime and homicides, but it requires more nuance," said Dee Wood Harper, an emeritus professor of criminal justice at Loyola University. "In New Orleans, look across our neighborhoods. In some, homicide is more common than the common cold, while others have never had a homicide."



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"Multidimensional poverty" paints a more accurate picture, according to a recently released report by the Brookings Institution, a nonprofit think-tank based in Washington D.C. This is when families struggling with low-income face, in addition, at least one of the following factors: lack of employment and health insurance, limited education, or living in an area with a poverty rate of 20 percent or higher.


I won't quote the whole article, but it's a good read. Nothing revolutionary, but interesting nonetheless.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:18 pm to
Because of the statues.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:19 pm to
I don't need an article to tell me the answer to this question.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:20 pm to
What's the reason?
Posted by Sevendust912
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:21 pm to
Check out baltimore
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:21 pm to
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Multidimensional poverty



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This is when families struggling with low-income face, in addition, at least one of the following factors: lack of employment and health insurance, limited education, or living in an area with a poverty rate of 20 percent or higher.

sounds often redundant
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:21 pm to
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Between 1857 and 1859, New Orleans had an average annual murder rate of 35 killings per 100,000, much higher than the annual homicide rate of 3.6 per 100,000 in Philadelphia and 7.5 in Boston. Only 21 percent of all New Orleans murders resulted in a conviction because witnesses were afraid to come forward and people were too scared to serve on juries, Rousey wrote.

When Russell visited New Orleans in 1861, he "remarked on the unusually high occurrence of lethal violence and the penchant of citizens for carrying weapons," Rousey wrote. "In his view, New Orleans was one of the most violent cities in the United States at that time."
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:21 pm to
I'd be shocked if the "poverty level" of Minneapolis is anywhere near "comparable" to that of New Orleans. Where do they get this stuff?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:22 pm to
This was interesting to me. That New Orleans has always been pretty murderous.
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:23 pm to
I'm gonna go with too much diversity
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:23 pm to
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What's the reason?

currently, the increase is probably due to inept policing because of the absolute lack of police. this along with the Ferguson effect is making criminals more bold, because they know of this deficiency. Mitch spent $40M of federal funds on cameras and effectively gave up on preventing crime and invested in solving it

also, the lack of segregation in Nola between economically different areas creates more crime. violent crime occurs in areas where polar classes meet
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:23 pm to
Dallas had 125 homicides last year and it's population is 4 times the size of Nola. The homicide rate in Nola is ridiculous.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38287 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:24 pm to
New Orleans was founded by the worst the French had. They were often given a choice to go to jail or go populate the new land for the King.

It's the same reason our politics are as bad as they are now.

Some things never change.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50166 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:26 pm to
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violent crime occurs in areas where polar classes meet


Does it? I thought it happened mostly in super poor areas.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:28 pm to
it's the Gini coefficient

it's relative poverty, not absolute poverty
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:29 pm to
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Dallas had 125 homicides last year and it's population is 4 times the size of Nola. The homicide rate in Nola is ridiculous.

That seems odd. Whats the demographic breakdown of Nola vs Dallas?
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:29 pm to
Because they are 60% black. Black people kill each other. Sorry for posting stats. Got it from Wikipedia.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:33 pm to
Lessiz-fair lifestyle


1933 - public works department created the Emergency Housing corporation
1934 - National housing act of '34
1937 - US Housing Autority was created.

And so on and so on... this is the time period you created these huge arse projects in the urban centers.

1944 and the next couple decades during and post war you had the Serviceman Readjustment Act (GI bill)
1947 - Congress est the Housing and Home financing agency

-The VA, HOLO, FHA
-'exclusionary covenants' were written into title deeds and r al estate neighborhood redlining.

-suburban expansion post-war took off while many blacks in the south were effectively barred from homeownership.

-in the race to the burbs, business and manufacturing followed the middle class

Leaving these massive projects like the St Thomas and Desire to turn into breeding grounds for the poor.


New Orleans was on the forefront of all this meddling by the federal government into housing and what we have now is the end result.

Votes being bought off with handouts and poverty breeding poverty with violence breeding more violence


Now you have nola
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
67111 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:38 pm to
New Orleans simply doesn't lock up murderers for more than 2 weeks. They don't have enough non-corrupt officers or public defenders to deal with all of the crime nor do they have withesses willing to come forward and testify. 95% of murders in the city go not only unsolved, but result in zero indictments or even arrests. Sickening police incompetence.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16846 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:38 pm to
I would get banned if I gave you the true answer.
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