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re: Why do white people commit a disproportionate amount of hate crimes?

Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by Nickleback
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:54 pm to
Cause the ($$$) media frames everything they do as a hate crime. White person parks illegally = hate crime. Illegal kills a white child because they're white = no crime. Wake up people.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:54 pm to
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Besides a white person can commit a hate crime against another white person, if it's one of those multiple other categories. Mathew Shepard case led to legislation against hate crimes against homosexuals.


True. But the bulk of all hate crimes are racially or ethnically motivated.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:56 pm to
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True. But the bulk of all hate crimes are racially or ethnically motivated.
OK. But your logic is still terribly flawed. Maybe you could argue it, if it was at the same proportion of the population, but since it's less, it's ridiculous to argue otherwise.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:59 pm to
"Reported"
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:00 am to
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OK. But your logic is still terribly flawed. Maybe you could argue it, if it was at the same proportion of the population, but since it's less, it's ridiculous to argue otherwise.


Given that there are less colored marbles in the bag why are they being disproportionately selected? the real question here is.. if white people make up 61% of the population would you expect 61% of hate crimes be committed against them or by them?

more individuals = more potential victims & more potential actors
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 12:02 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:04 am to
Yeah I don't think the word disproportionate is what you meant to use here?

Your stats actually look to show the exact opposite, that whites are disproportionately low in their hate crimes:
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:06 am to
massive fricking failure
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:10 am to
quote:

Given that there are less colored marbles in the bag why are they being disproportionately selected? the real question here is.. if white people make up 61% of the population would you expect 61% of hate crimes be committed against them or by them?

more individuals = more potential victims & more potential actors
Then we could expect with more potential actors, but fewer potential victims, then a raw estimate would be to split the difference, so ~ 50%. Then when you consider the non race based crimes, that would mean it would mean more toward the 61%.

So if anything, you could make the argument that it's near the expected proportion.

However, the flaw is that it's still such a small percentage, using population numbers gets into any number of fallacies.
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16532 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:15 am to
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This thread will be a monument to your stupidity


It'll offend someone and it will get torn down eventually
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:30 am to
How high are you?
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:08 am to
Has there ever been a more embarrassing OP than this one?

Those statistics totally refute his own argument.

On top of that, those statsitistcs are likely inflated.

Whenever a white person commits a crime against a black person (a relatively rare event) the media and the justice department are VERY quick to call it a 'hate crime'

Whenever a black person commits a crime against a white person (a relativity common event) the media and the justice department do everything they can to avoid bringing up the racial aspect.

And despite that, the stats STILL show whites commit less than their 'fair share' of hate crimes.
Posted by chickenpotpie
Member since Aug 2013
1161 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:38 am to
Why do black people, gays, & muslims commit almost 100% of hate crime hoaxes?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21874 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:42 am to
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since 2010 more than 50% of reported hate crime offenders were white.


quote:

America is 65% white. If these statistics are correct, white people commit a disproportionately low number of hate crimes.



And given that ONLY white people can be racist, the numbers are really low.

Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18438 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:48 am to
I didn't read all of the posts in this thread so I don't know what's been said.

The whole basis of hate crimes is absolute bullshite. To insinuate that a crime against an individual is more severe because of differences in race or ethnicity is absolutely ludicrous. It perpetuates the inequality that it was designed to eliminate.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2383 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:10 am to
Wow! That damn racist math is always out to get you huh?
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:58 am to
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Why do white people commit a disproportionate amount of hate crimes?


67% of the population commits less than 67% of the hate crimes? Idk, white people need to start carrying their weight.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:05 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:29 am to
What an absolute failure of a thread. BMY thought he had some profound "gotcha". What an idiot
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:11 am to
Instead of manning the frick up and taking the L, you doubled down on your retardery.

Wooow
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:46 am to
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Because black on black crimes arent recorded as "hate crimes"



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