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re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?

Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:47 pm to
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If Lombardy was a country, it would take the prize. It isn't. Same is true of Madrid.

Don't be stupid!


I only include areas that have had more than 1,000 deaths because smaller samples create anomalies. I haven't seen Madrid's death rate per capita but I'll look up.
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:52 pm to
Madrid has a population of 6.6 million with 7765 deaths. New York City has a population of 8.4 million with 11,817 deaths. Yes, New York City has a higher death per capita than Madrid.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:58 pm to
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Also, I'm not sure if you've travelled Europe but countries are similar to our states


Unbelievably silly.ALL those countries are their own entity and all a different centralized responses.

Germany had completely different centralized response than Italy and Sweden had a different response than either.

Another insipid comparison.
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Unbelievably silly.ALL those countries are their own entity and all a different centralized responses.

Germany had completely different centralized response than Italy and Sweden had a different response than either.

Another insipid comparison.


Similar mathematically as it relates to population. I'm performing calculations, so I'm searching for similarities in numbers, independent of government or political agenda.
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:06 pm to
I could care less about how we arrive at a solution, or who arrives at the solution,I'm simply searching for a solution and it appears that other countries have done a better job than us so let's learn from the superior response and implement it or some form thereof.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:16 pm to
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You're obviously looking at deaths per case
NO!
I am looking at the US rate vs Spanish rate. Straight-up. Country-to-country.
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:17 pm to
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NO!
I am looking at the US rate vs Spanish rate. Straight-up. Country-to-country.


Just show me the numbers and I'll explain.
Posted by CDawson
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:17 pm to
Because maybe I don’t want my freedom infringed and movement tracked? How about we allow the individual to decide where they go and what they do without government intrusion.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:20 pm to
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I'm not sure if you've travelled Europe
Many times.
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Also, I'm not sure if you've travelled Europe but countries are similar to our states.
Not currently it isn't. Border stations are back up. Cross-border traffic is curtailed.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:20 pm to
4,3,5,6,7,9,1,2,8
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Just show me the numbers and I'll explain.

US deaths 53,461
US population 328 million

Spain deaths 22,902
Spain population 47 million

..... go ahead and explain
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:41 pm to
Ok, you can view it like that, and you're not wrong but I would argue that I can find 2 states with a population of less than 30 million(about 10% of the total population of the United States), far less than the population of Spain, whose combined death toll is far greater than that of Spain. Both states obviously have a greater death per capita than Spain. I would also argue that if we are fighting a war, and there are 287,000 troops on the New York shore, I would allocate greater forces to New York than I would allocate to California, Florida and Texas who are facing less than 100,000 enemy troops. New York has conducted 777,000 tests per 287,000 cases. California, Florida, and Texas have conducted over 1 million tests for less than 100,000 cases.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:45 pm to
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Because maybe I don’t want my freedom infringed and movement tracked? How about we allow the individual to decide where they go and what they do without government intrusion.


That's fine and I respect your opinion and your personal freedoms but I believe that is a good way to lose a war, to place personal preference over that of the objective
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:47 pm to
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I can find 2 states with a population of less than 30 million(about 10% of the total population of the United States), less than 1/2 the population of Spain, whose combined death toll is far greater than that of Spain
And I can find states in Spain and Italy where the death totals are higher than those you are citing.
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:49 pm to
Find them - find areas that have had more than 1,000 deaths and are losing more than 1100 people per million.
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:51 pm to
And I would remind you that you are searching for the highest death tolls on Earth and therefore the most insufficient response.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:52 pm to
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Find them -
LINK
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:56 pm to
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And I would remind you that you are searching for the highest death tolls on Earth and therefore the most insufficient response.
That would most certainly be Wuhan, on both accounts . . . . if China was an honest broker. China is not.
Posted by madhatterman
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:58 pm to
Lombardy is really close to New York City but just slighlty lower in deaths per capita.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:07 pm to
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Lombardy is really close to New York City but just slighlty lower in deaths per capita.
Wait!
Now you are comparing a state/region to a city?

Lombardy deaths are 1300dpm
NY deaths are 1125dpm
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