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re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:41 pm to madhatterman
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:41 pm to madhatterman
All this being said, I believe the Google/ Apple marriage may be the game changer we've been looking for. I just wish we would have implemented it from the beginning and Americanized the South Korean method such that it is more appropriate for our culture.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:42 pm to madhatterman
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The key is smart testing and the number of tests performed per positive test. Japan has tested more than 10 per positive and the US is under 6. We're under 3 in New York and just over 2 in New Jersey. Basically, We've been testing sick people as opposed to testing sick people plus all the people the sick people may have come in contact with. Thus, New York and New Jersey have, by far, more deaths per capita than any other place on Earth.
Japan has tested far fewer people, period. Hence their lower numbers. Did they incentivize hospitals to classify every death as Covid?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:42 pm to madhatterman
A) more cynical answer: Because they want to cull the population
B) slightly less cynical answer- we’re ruled by venal arseclowns incapable of putting together a first world response
B) slightly less cynical answer- we’re ruled by venal arseclowns incapable of putting together a first world response
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:46 pm to madhatterman
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Thus, New York and New Jersey have, by far, more deaths per capita than any other place on Earth
This would seem to be due to their leaders encouraging people to “mingle” “eat out” and that it was no big deal in early March.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:50 pm to Dawgfanman
[quote]Japan has tested far fewer people, period. Hence their lower numbers. Did they incentivize hospitals to classify every death as Covid?[/quot]
Lots of unknown variables. I don't know the method Japan has implemented but why haven't we implemented a smarter approach. My contention is that it would have saved lives.
Lots of unknown variables. I don't know the method Japan has implemented but why haven't we implemented a smarter approach. My contention is that it would have saved lives.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:51 pm to madhatterman
Has the CDC addressed your question? It’s their job. Maybe we need to refocus their agenda?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:54 pm to madhatterman
Because the president’s administration totally dropped the ball in January & February
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:58 pm to IrishTiger89
New York is losing over 1000 people per million. New Jersey over 630. Belgium is next at 576. Whatever we're doing isn't working. Contact tracing has taken far too long to implement, let's get it going immediately.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:59 pm to madhatterman
Oh I don’t know, maybe something as simple as the.....frick BILL OF RIGHTS YOU LEFTIST DUMBASS MORON! Shut the frick you and move to South Korea you two bit idiot.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:01 pm to madhatterman
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Whatever we're doing isn't working
It’s working where most of the nation lives.
Maybe places like NY should do something different.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:02 pm to TeLeFaWx
Once the singing starts it really picks up. Woah!
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:03 pm to longwayfromLA
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They respected it and we didn't for far too long...They have a central administration running the show...it was never a political football there...the have much lower privacy exceptions so they could trace people with apps...they had an infrastructure and plan in place for pandemics in place; they executed the playbook.
Plus you didn’t have a choice with authoritarian laws. You have to have the App, you have to be tested, you can not enter anywhere if running a temp (the have FLIR monitors at entrances of any major building), they would lock you down if you even sneezed and the population is perfectly fine with that.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:13 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Oh I don’t know, maybe something as simple as the.....frick BILL OF RIGHTS YOU LEFTIST DUMBASS MORON! Shut the frick you and move to South Korea you two bit idiot.
How would this help contain and eradicate the virus?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:29 pm to madhatterman
You ever tried driving on Highway 1? Try compressing 12 lanes into 3 for a tollbooth and see what that does to traffic.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:35 pm to madhatterman
quote:The CDC screwed us is why.
Why didn't we contact trace from day 1?
The CDC massively overpromised and massively underdelivered.
In Jan & Feb the CDC said they had tests completely in hand.
The CDC said it would produce the most and the best tests in the world.
Fauci, the NIH, Johns Hopkins, and every US pandemic "expert" told Trump the CDC was the world's premier agent in dealing with a pandemic. They told him to trust the CDC.
Are you intimating Trump should have ignored every US pandemic "expert", shut out the CDC, shut out US labs the CDC (inappropriately) called to question, and instead relied on internationally manufactured CV19 tests?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:35 pm to madhatterman
quote:i have a hard time believing this
South Korea has 240 deaths
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:46 pm to NC_Tigah
[quote]Are you intimating Trump should have ignored every US pandemic "expert", shut out the CDC, shut out US labs the CDC (inappropriately) called to question, and instead relied on internationally manufactured CV19 tests?[/quote
I'm saying we didn't learn from the most effective approach and now that it is obvious that our approach is failing ,in terms of loss of human life, why aren't we implementing a new, improved approach? The loss of life in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Massachusetts is greater than Italy, the country with the worse loss of life on Earth, though their combined population is 20 million less than Italy. Time for an improved, more intelligent plan.
I'm saying we didn't learn from the most effective approach and now that it is obvious that our approach is failing ,in terms of loss of human life, why aren't we implementing a new, improved approach? The loss of life in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Massachusetts is greater than Italy, the country with the worse loss of life on Earth, though their combined population is 20 million less than Italy. Time for an improved, more intelligent plan.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:50 pm to madhatterman
quote:Then you are 100% wrong.
I'm saying we didn't learn from the most effective approach
You have no clue as to WTF you are talking about.
In fact we recommended the "Korean method" to SoKo.
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