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re: Why are many of the Southern states the poorest in the nation?

Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by Smalls
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:04 pm to
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Why are many of the Southern states the poorest in the nation?


A traditionally agrarian economy coupled with hundreds of thousands of people (millions?) thrust into the "real world" with literally jack shite (monetarily or educationally) will do that.
Posted by willthezombie
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:05 pm to
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If you remove the career dependents out of the equation and figure in cost of living --- is the south that much poorer?


has anyone ever done that? It would be interesting to see.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:05 pm to
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If you remove the career dependents out of the equation
Don't they have a limit to how long you can be on welfare?
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:06 pm to
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Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:07 pm to
I don't know about other states buy poor leadership and corruption did not help Louisiana or New Orleans. Hell New Orleans was once one of the largest cities in America. Look at it in comparison now...
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:07 pm to
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Don't they have a limit to how long you can be on welfare?


Not if you know how to work the system.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:07 pm to
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Many more blacks live In the south and their overall wealth is lower than that of whites.



Almost a third of Maryland is black. Can you come up with another group or something else to blame this on?
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:09 pm to
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Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:09 pm to
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If you remove the career dependents out of the equation
Don't they have a limit to how long you can be on welfare?


If they do the career dependents are experts at gaming the system.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:10 pm to
I'm assuming it has to do with the type of economy in those states. I can't think of anything they produce.

Many states are known for what they produce.

I mean, what do many of these southern states produce?
Posted by The Calvin
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:11 pm to
Right, because continuing the tradition of voting republican will surely bring prosperity eventually, right? There is a stiff resistance to change in the south that is unparalleled anywhere in our country. Is it the primary reason it is so poor? No, but again, it certainly doesn't help

Outside of Texas, which republican state us largely successful? Even Texas' major cities are starting to trend blue.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:11 pm to
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cant answer this question without sounding racist


but really. the south will rise again
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Posted by The Calvin
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:14 pm to
And that dependence as a way of life includes Republicans
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:14 pm to
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has anyone ever done that? It would be interesting to see.


I know a guy who moved here who his whole life has been in the North (Illinois, Washington D.C).

When he moved here his salary decreased due to cost of living adjustment. Between him and his wife he lost roughly $8,000 in annual income.

Yet the difference in cost of living took him from struggling to pay the mortgage on an average suburban home in the north to living in a gated subdivision on a golf course here.

He was amazed at how much further his money would go down here and plans on retiring here instead of moving back up north.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted by willthezombie
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:14 pm to
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Outside of Texas, which republican state us largely successful? Even Texas' major cities are starting to trend blue.


California before the dems took over. Look at the rise in the south since it started turning red.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:14 pm to
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Outside of Texas, which republican state us largely successful? Even Texas' major cities are starting to trend blue.
Considering the majority of states are red, many of them are doing well. It's not a red/blue thing. It seems to be more of an economic thing. There is a lot of industry up north that creates a lot of jobs.

And as far as Texas cities trending blue... that has always been the case. If anything, the major cities in Texas are becoming less blue.

Posted by jlc05
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:15 pm to
Montgomery County, MD is very, very, very wealthy
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:17 pm to
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I know a guy who moved here who his whole life has been in the North (Illinois, Washington D.C).

When he moved here his salary decreased due to cost of living adjustment. Between him and his wife he lost roughly $8,000 in annual income.

Yet the difference in cost of living took him from struggling to pay the mortgage on an average suburban home in the north to living in a gated subdivision on a golf course.

He was amazed at how much further his money would go down here and plans on retiring here instead of moving back up north.
This is an interesting point.

Is the poverty line a national statistic? Or is it done by each state?

Because the cost of living is very different from state to state.

So some families in some areas may make enough money to be above the "poverty line", but they are just as poor as a family in the south who is below the poverty line.

Is that a legitimate possibility?
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:17 pm to
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