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Where Did Your Gas Come from in '21

Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:35 am
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:35 am


LINK

Make the Green Energy machine go brrr in '22. Although, it would be easy to offset Russian imports with increased US energy independence...
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 7:39 am
Posted by marinebioman
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:36 am to
Red beans and rice
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:37 am to
Werent we energy independent just a year ago?

Congrats want brigade
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:40 am to
Finally. We are back to normal in DC. We have an adult back in the WH to continue us towards the way things used to be!
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:16 am to
No wonder my engine bay smells like vodka
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Werent we energy independent just a year ago?

Congrats want brigade

Depends on how you look at being energy independent

When we were a net exporter of oil we still imported from other countries, Russia included

This infographic refers to refined gasoline. It's worth noting that we've been a net exporter of refined gasoline since 2011 and still are today.

So we're as energy independent on that front as we were on the oil front a couple years ago

Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:21 am to
We need sail cars to protect us from the climate boogeyman
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:28 am to

This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:29 am to
Repeat after me - The United States is a net exporter of refined gasoline
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:34 am to
What if all of the US export numbers were actually what was imported, plus some of our production, to create higher prices at the pumps? How's does one test gasoline to determine it's origin?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:38 am to
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What if all of the US export numbers were actually what was imported, plus some of our production, to create higher prices at the pumps?

What if you just blurted out something random jibberish to sound as dumb as possible? Wait, nevermind.
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How's does one test gasoline to determine it's origin?

Why would you want to do that?

This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 8:46 am
Posted by redfish99
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:38 am to
Shell Norco.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:45 am to
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What if you just blurted out something random to sound as dumb as possible?

Powerman says wha?

quote:

Wait, nevermind.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9955 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Werent we energy independent just a year ago?

Congrats want brigade


That isn't what "energy independence" means, really. In theory it means we can sustain our own needs. We've been able to do that between 83%-95% since ~ 2011. Some years we've been net exporters.

But I'm not sure where their data comes from ...

You can see total crude & product fuel sources here: LINK

Finished gasoline imports mostly came from Canada.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:46 am to
Seriously, listen to yourself. You don't make any sense.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:54 am to
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Werent we energy independent just a year ago?
We are net exporters. We exported $85B in the same year vs importing $62B.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:58 am to
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How's does one test gasoline to determine it's origin?


Why would you want to do that?


That's actually a real thing. Shell does it in Nigeria. Fingerprinting of their crude for tracing purposes when it eventually gets loaded onto a non-contracted ship to sell to the Chinese.

Those stories are unbelievable. If they make it out of the swamps into open water, they'll just sell the crude and give them the ship
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10321 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:59 am to
Riddle me this Powerman . If on a world scale we still are a net exporter of refined fuel how I the hell do you equate losses of American production of oil and rising prices as a net good for Americans or anyone in the world except other oil producer nations like Russia and OPEC that thrive on instability of world policy. Refined products obviously is a necessity but same exports can be made with oil production from North American sources which was being achieved for the first time in 60 years just a year ago . Capitalism is great and I agree but inflation is a death mail at this time . American policy of defaulting for the good of the world in supposedly helping them has cost us dearly , opposite of the effects we showed the world in building the our nation from scratch.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33406 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 11:06 am to
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If on a world scale we still are a net exporter of refined fuel how I the hell do you equate losses of American production of oil and rising prices as a net good for Americans or anyone in the world except other oil producer nations like Russia and OPEC that thrive on instability of world policy.
Nobody said it was "good". It's just a fact, though.

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Capitalism is great and I agree but inflation is a death mail at this time .
Yes, long-term inflation is bad. But a death knell right now? To what?

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American policy of defaulting for the good of the world in supposedly helping them has cost us dearly
What examples do you have to support this view of history?

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opposite of the effects we showed the world in building the our nation from scratch.
With copious help from European powers like France.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9465 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 11:08 am to
I fricking hate Washington DC and every politician out there.
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